Google throws bodies at OpenOffice

Google plans to hire programmers to improve OpenOffice.org, a demonstration of its affinity for open source initiatives and one the company believes also shows sound practical sense.

OpenOffice has its roots in Sun Microsystems' StarOffice suite of programs. Five years ago, Sun turned its proprietary software into an open-source project. Only recently, however, has the competitor to Microsoft's Office attracted serious attention.

Now Google believes it can help OpenOffice--perhaps working to pare down the software's memory requirements or its mammoth 80MB download size, said Chris DiBona, manager for open-source programs at the search company.

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Google plans to hire programmers to improve OpenOffice.org, an open-source software suite that competes with Microsoft's Office.

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The move strengthens the search giant's ties to open-source development. But Google also has business reasons to justify its embrace of OpenOffice, which competes directly with a Microsoft product.

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"We want to hire a couple of folks to help make OpenOffice better," DiBona said.

Google has shown an affinity for open-source software, which are programs developed in the open and available for free. Many of the company's programmers came of age in the open-source era, so advancing the open-source agenda comes naturally, DiBona said. But the company also has business reasons to justify its open-source embrace.

"We use a fair amount of open-source software at Google. We want to make sure that's a healthy community. And we want to make sure open source preserves competitiveness within the industry," he said.

Earlier in October, Google and Sun announced a partnership to boost several software projects, but released few details. Asked about OpenOffice collaboration, Google CEO Eric Schmidt said at the time only that the search engine power would "work to make the distribution of (OpenOffice) more broad." But OpenOffice, like the other software projects the partners intend to work on, competes directly with Microsoft software--a point that has not gone unnoticed.

As one of the most-watched companies in the industry, Google's involvement has helped Sun draw attention to OpenOffice.org. And there are other reasons the software is taken more seriously as an alternative to Microsoft Office. For one thing, OpenOffice.org 2.0 was just released with a modernized interface and some new features. For another, OpenOffice.org supports OpenDocument, a standardized file format that many endorse as a way to break the lock-in of Microsoft's proprietary formats.

DiBona didn't mention a wider competitive perspective in giving Google's rationale for investing time and money on nonproprietary software. "We were looking for ways to work with Sun and ways to help users. This is a good place to spend some resources," he said.

Google's heavy use of open-source software for its operations has kept its developers in touch with cutting-edge technology, but the do-it-yourself approach has also meant that its employees have technology maintenance responsibilities that most companies leave to others.

Some believe Google eventually will have to settle with a more conventional approach: buying technology instead of building it in-house. Among them is Brian Stevens, chief technology officer of Linux seller Red Hat. He said many customers began with their own versions of Linux before turning to Red Hat for support.

"With most customers, we have a relationship that started that way. Every financial services company, the Department of Energy--almost everyone got Linux in a nonstandard way on their own," Stevens said. But Google probably won't keep its in-house Linux version, he predicted. "That's not where their competence is. They've got a lot of other problems than building Linux distributions."

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Google is notoriously reluctant to describe the particulars of its search-computing data center, which served the demands of 380 million people in August. But DiBona did discuss some details.

The company uses the Linux operating system for its mainstay search

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OpenOffice for Mac?
by Kmett October 31, 2005 6:50 AM PST
Maybe with Google helping out, they'll make a Mac version of OpenOffice? That'd be nice.
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OpenOffice for Mac?
by Kmett October 31, 2005 6:50 AM PST
Maybe with Google helping out, they'll make a Mac version of OpenOffice? That'd be nice.
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"We make great use of Java....
by Captain_Spock October 31, 2005 8:06 AM PST
... at the company," DiBona said, in light of this stated fact then the Operating System of choice should naturally have been IBM's OS/2 Warp which boasted the best performance running the Sun Java Virtual Machine (JVM) engine. For all practical purposes Sun Microsystems and IBM should have continued their collaboratiion on the JAVA/OS project that was embarked upon by these two companies thereby providing a popular alternative to the then emerging "Windows..XX" threat which is presently reported to be controlling 90% of the "desktop" marketspace. As it is apparently widely known both OpenOffice and MS Office have "borrowed" a number of features from Lotus SmartSuite just as the Linux Operating System. Just what the world is doing with the reported over 350 different "flavors" of an operating system together with the dominant Windows Operating which has yet to deliver on some computing features - includin security. What a waste of financial and other resources! The logical steps then for a market-facing "desktop" environment should have been an Open Lotus SmartSuite/OS2 Warp Combination.
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"We make great use of Java....
by Captain_Spock October 31, 2005 8:06 AM PST
... at the company," DiBona said, in light of this stated fact then the Operating System of choice should naturally have been IBM's OS/2 Warp which boasted the best performance running the Sun Java Virtual Machine (JVM) engine. For all practical purposes Sun Microsystems and IBM should have continued their collaboratiion on the JAVA/OS project that was embarked upon by these two companies thereby providing a popular alternative to the then emerging "Windows..XX" threat which is presently reported to be controlling 90% of the "desktop" marketspace. As it is apparently widely known both OpenOffice and MS Office have "borrowed" a number of features from Lotus SmartSuite just as the Linux Operating System. Just what the world is doing with the reported over 350 different "flavors" of an operating system together with the dominant Windows Operating which has yet to deliver on some computing features - includin security. What a waste of financial and other resources! The logical steps then for a market-facing "desktop" environment should have been an Open Lotus SmartSuite/OS2 Warp Combination.
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There were some great alternatives . . .
by rbannon October 31, 2005 8:33 AM PST
In the past, especially on the Mac platform, there were great alternatives. For example WingZ (spreadsheet) and WriteNow (word processor) were both much better than MS's offerings, but they failed to take hold against MS's marketing and the hoard like masses in the computer world. I think Apple has the code rights to WingZ (re-branded as Resolve), but WriteNow was written in assembler. Would love to see Apple re-release Resolve as a Mac OS X native application . . . PLEASE! As for a word processor, I long ago gave up because Word basically killed everyone else, even though Word is a pretty bad product. So, I just bit the bullet and learned LaTeX! For shorter work, I use Mellel, which is close to being like WriteNow. Want a free iPod: http://ipods.freepay.com/?r=22990096
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There were some great alternatives . . .
by rbannon October 31, 2005 8:33 AM PST
In the past, especially on the Mac platform, there were great alternatives. For example WingZ (spreadsheet) and WriteNow (word processor) were both much better than MS's offerings, but they failed to take hold against MS's marketing and the hoard like masses in the computer world. I think Apple has the code rights to WingZ (re-branded as Resolve), but WriteNow was written in assembler. Would love to see Apple re-release Resolve as a Mac OS X native application . . . PLEASE! As for a word processor, I long ago gave up because Word basically killed everyone else, even though Word is a pretty bad product. So, I just bit the bullet and learned LaTeX! For shorter work, I use Mellel, which is close to being like WriteNow. Want a free iPod: http://ipods.freepay.com/?r=22990096
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Where It Is Believe The "Battle" Will Be Joined!
by Captain_Spock October 31, 2005 10:36 AM PST
Not taking Microsoft for granted will be to take into very "high" consideration that this company noted for its "dealings" with the competition has already embarked on delivering on what it has recently touted as "EXCEL SERVICES"... an area where OpenOffice's - Open Document Standards is reported to lack formula compatibility, see link: OpenDocument office suites lack formula compatibility - http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/09/09/192250&from=rss Added to these are Microsoft's plans for its "SharePoint" technologies integration and perhaps enhancements to its Communications Server "Live" strategies for Real-Time Collaboration and Communication. These are but a few of the product and marketshare issues that the IBM/Google/Sun Microsystems Partnership would have to contend with against Microsoft!
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Where It Is Believe The "Battle" Will Be Joined!
by Captain_Spock October 31, 2005 10:36 AM PST
Not taking Microsoft for granted will be to take into very "high" consideration that this company noted for its "dealings" with the competition has already embarked on delivering on what it has recently touted as "EXCEL SERVICES"... an area where OpenOffice's - Open Document Standards is reported to lack formula compatibility, see link: OpenDocument office suites lack formula compatibility - http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/09/09/192250&from=rss Added to these are Microsoft's plans for its "SharePoint" technologies integration and perhaps enhancements to its Communications Server "Live" strategies for Real-Time Collaboration and Communication. These are but a few of the product and marketshare issues that the IBM/Google/Sun Microsystems Partnership would have to contend with against Microsoft!
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OpenOffice is a dead duck unless...
by Zipdude November 1, 2005 3:29 AM PST
OpenOffice is never going to take on MS Office unless they embrace the MS Office file formats as de facto standard. Threatening the user with loss of information every time time he wants to save in MS Office format is a BAD IDEA! MS Office file formats should be the default, so that OpenOffice works as a slot-in replacement for the average user. Then the OpenDocument formats will become a selling point instead of a liability.
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OpenOffice is a dead duck unless...
by Zipdude November 1, 2005 3:29 AM PST
OpenOffice is never going to take on MS Office unless they embrace the MS Office file formats as de facto standard. Threatening the user with loss of information every time time he wants to save in MS Office format is a BAD IDEA! MS Office file formats should be the default, so that OpenOffice works as a slot-in replacement for the average user. Then the OpenDocument formats will become a selling point instead of a liability.
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