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October 16, 2008 12:33 PM PDT

Apple sells 200 million TV shows, but is that a big deal?

Posted by Greg Sandoval
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Apple said Thursday that it has sold 200 million TV episodes on iTunes. This might sound like a lot, but the money that TV networks see from the deal may still be relatively small.

The company also announced that the download store would offer high-definition TV shows from all four of the major broadcast networks--CBS, Fox, ABC, and NBC--and that it had sold 1 million HDTV episodes since last month.

To put the 200 million number into context, Peter Kafka at Silicon Alley Insider figured it this way: Apple sold the 200 million episodes over three years. If each show sold for the standard $1.99 iTunes price and the networks took a 70 percent slice then they would have seen about $280 million. That means the group is getting just over $93 million a year.

NBC has said that it accounts for 40 percent of the videos sold on iTunes, which would mean it takes in $36 million. Here's where things get hinky. That figure is more than twice the $15 million that NBC Universal CEO Jeff Zucker said the company nets from iTunes. Of course, he said that a year ago, just after pulling NBC content from iTunes following a spat over pricing.

This could mean that the sales rate at iTunes jumped in the past year while NBC's content was gone. Sales may have skyrocketed with the debut of the iPhone. We don't know. Regardless, the truth is that even in a best-case scenario the numbers are a drop in the bucket. The Television Bureau of Advertising reported in August that total broadcast ad revenue was just over $11 billion for the second quarter.

That's worth repeating: $11 billion for the second quarter.

But does this mean iTunes won't be a significant video distributor in coming years? No way. The numbers show that a significant amount of people are willing to pay cash for mobile content, the same content they can watch for free via broadcast or at Web sites like Hulu.

"Consumption of (mobile video) is not replacing broadcast but it is supplementing it," said Josh Martin, an analyst with the Yankee Group. "This is an indication consumers are willing to consume media in multiple forms. Providing freedom of choice is important for content owners. Linear broadcast is still the golden goose but there are other opportunities for the networks to make money and please consumers."

Greg Sandoval covers media and digital entertainment for CNET News. He is a former reporter for The Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times. E-mail Greg.
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by RicF964 October 16, 2008 12:54 PM PDT
I don't understand why people would want to pay for each episode of a TV Show when you can rent the disc from Netflix and then convert using something like CuCuSoft. We've watched Rome, Weeds, Entourage, and Dexter going to and from work on public transportation and I only pay a per month rental not a per episode download.
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by ckurowic October 16, 2008 1:27 PM PDT
I really like Apple, but I agree with your comment. Paying for TV episodes is kind of lame.
by Thomas, David October 16, 2008 3:34 PM PDT
Except one little caveat, isn't making a copy of the content illegal? What I mean to say is, the disc you rented, does it not have language prohibiting people from making unauthorized copies?

The studios major source of revenue is advertising. That's how the revenue can be 11 billion in one quarter, and why advertisement free content is an issue for them.
by DrtyDogg October 16, 2008 4:02 PM PDT
You can also just record it.
by mrgoodall October 17, 2008 5:27 AM PDT
Um, that's a little thing we like to call theft. You don't legally own the right to that work, nor the legal protection to suitablly "back it up" for your use. So how can justify your actions again? You might as well assert, "Yeah, paying to go to the movies is for suckers, when I can rent it from Netflix in a few months and copy it with Cucusoft and watch it while i ride the bus."
by MaggieRed October 16, 2008 1:42 PM PDT
I don't mind buying them. I have a number of seasons of some of those you mentioned from Showtime. And now CW put Smallville out there which makes it much easier then ripping my seasons 1-6 from disc. That took a lot of time.

So I'm happy they are doing it.
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by andrewrm October 16, 2008 2:48 PM PDT
If you combine purchasing the shows with Apple T.V. it's a pretty good proposition.
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by pairof9s--2008 October 16, 2008 3:22 PM PDT
@RicF964: Why are there car washes when people could easily do the same at their house and save money, too...because of the convenience. That's why these shows are selling. The convenience of automatically downloading it to your iPod, Apple TV or computer via iTunes as opposed to waiting on Netflix delivery, ripping the DVD and uploading to your device of choice. It might not sound like much to you, but obviously to a great many people it does!
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by sandonet October 16, 2008 3:42 PM PDT
I upload "Mad Men" to my iPhone to watch on the train. And here's the other thing. It's cool not having to watch commercials. Sometimes, I hate being interrupted. Still, with the economy tanking, people might cut back spending for this kind of convenience.
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by DrtyDogg October 16, 2008 4:04 PM PDT
Media Center + DVRMS Toolbox = commercial free .mpg of your tv show.
by Heebee Jeebies October 16, 2008 4:31 PM PDT
Nothing like paying for what you can get for free. God consumers are real morons. Hey twits just watch television. Unless you have an antenna you are already paying for these programs. Only twits would pay twice.

Robert
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by paulsecic October 17, 2008 10:18 AM PDT
Anyone who buys network shows has to be idiots!
by djames42 October 16, 2008 6:25 PM PDT
Heebee, maybe it actually does make sense to pay for episodes... I have a HDTV. I pay Comcast $14 for the basic basic cable. If I want HD and HD-DVR from them, guess what? My bill goes to about $100/month. I watch two, maybe three series. So I bought an Apple TV. Now I pay $40 per year per show. That's a grand total of $420 for this year's worth of TV. That's about four months of what I'd pay Comcast. And I can re-watch episodes. And I don't get commercials. Next year my cost goes down to $120 for those same three shows. I'd have to watch about 30 programs to make up the difference. Anyone who regularly watches 30 televisions shows needs to get out more often.
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by setgo October 16, 2008 6:39 PM PDT
See this article shows why our economy is in crisis now. GREED! Dude is asking if 36 million dollars a year is a big deal for a network. That's worth repeating: $36 million! 36M that they didn't have before; 36 million in addition to their current revenue; 36M from just compressing, posting and letting Apple host. If I pass by a **** dime on the street I'm picking it up. That's just a crazy question to me.
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by Jim_Feeley October 16, 2008 8:29 PM PDT
> The numbers show that a significant amount
> of people are willing to pay cash for mobile content

Do you mean "mobile content" as in "content people can move around" or as in "content people can watch on iPods and iPhones"? If the later, is there a way to know what percentage of iTunes TV sales end up being watched on mobile devices, and not just on general-purpose computers?

10%? 50%? 75%? I have no idea...But I'd like to know...
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by mrgoodall October 17, 2008 5:45 AM PDT
The problem I have with the authors assertion is that he's comparing add buys for an industry with purchases of television shows. How many times will an ad run during the course of a day, let alone a show? Swiffer Wet Jet, Oxy Clean, or Burger King anyone? A single ad buy on a nationwide network is several thousand for 15 secs, a single episode of a show is &1.99/per, but on air that show can have 13 mins of commercials (780secs). So lets assume each spot costs $10k, 780/30sec spot=26 commercials x $10k=$260k for one show, thats a lot for one show, and how many shows are on tv? At best its like saying the potato chip industry isnt worth a lot because oil companies make billions in a fiscal quarter.
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by bbftu919 October 17, 2008 7:44 AM PDT
I am amazed that anyone would pay for a TV show. There are so many ways to watch for free. I guess it is just harder and more time consuming to get them onto an iPod or iPhone than it is for other brand devices. Apple has a good model here, as it can get folks to pay for free content. Think I will add to my Apple stock holdings.
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by mycrapsgame October 17, 2008 9:58 AM PDT
I really would like HD TV shows and Movies on the Apple TV box. Trouble is Apple's "HD" is fudged, they show 1280 by 720 (maximum) pixels. HiDef means 1080 to the rest of the world. Apple's "HD" is a scaled down "special" spec Apple made up.
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by toomath October 17, 2008 11:09 AM PDT
the iTunes TV downloads were terrible in quality when iTunes first had TV. They've gotten steadily better and now the HD versions are fantastic. That'll help sales. But these aren't primary purchases, they're often supplemental - the person has access to the show on tv but wants to collect the episodes because they're a fan.

In my case I want to download just one show, Dexter, because I don't want to pay for showtime and buying the season on Itunes is cheaper. So I can see that in that particular example, the network really isn't coming out ahead. Which may be why Dexter is not going to be available on iTunes until the season is almost over. And at that point, perhaps I'd be better off just going through netflix...
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by mectron October 17, 2008 5:17 PM PDT
there is 2 problems here:
1. Apple (no one in his right mind will buy anything from such a bad company
2. DRM. Who is stupid enough to paid 2$ for a DRM infected file?
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