September 4, 2007 6:38 AM PDT

Microsoft stumbles in Open XML standards vote

Update at 9:45 a.m. PT Tuesday: Adds ISO confirmation

Microsoft has failed in its initial effort to standardize its Office document file format.

The company was attempting to standardize its Office Open XML document formats through a "fast track" process at the International Organization for Standardization.

The draft standard "has not achieved the required number of votes" according to a statement issued by the ISO on Tuesday. The voting process ended on Sunday.

A tally indicates that Open XML did not get the two-thirds majority needed from "participating" ISO members.

The closely watched vote has been marked by intense lobbying and politicking among Microsoft supporters and rivals. Microsoft is seeking a standards body's recognition of its document formats in an effort of allay fears among businesses and governments that its products are proprietary.

Open XML Community logo(Credit: Microsoft)

Some worry that a document format controlled by Microsoft, as opposed to a standards body, could make it difficult for organizations to exchange data, or to access older data at a later date.

Despite the setback for Microsoft, this is not the end of the line for the Office Open XML standards effort, according to people familiar with the process.

In the next phase of the process, managers of the Office Open XML specification will address technical comments that were attached to the votes. Microsoft can modify and resubmit its proposal. That process is expected to begin in February of next year in Geneva, according to the ISO.

If Microsoft's reworked proposal does not satisfy ISO members on its next submission, "the proposal will have failed and this fast-track procedure will be terminated," according to the ISO.

Microsoft on Tuesday issued a statement saying that 74 percent of participants in the ISO vote "supported" ratification of Open XML.

"This preliminary vote is a milestone for the widespread adoption of the Open XML formats around the world for the benefit of millions of customers. Given how encouraging today's results were, we believe that the final tally in early 2008 will result in the ratification of Open XML as an ISO standard," Tom Robertson, Microsoft's general manager for standards and interoperabilty, said in a statement.

Attorney Andrew Updegrove, a standards expert and supporter of the rival OpenDocument standard, interpreted Microsoft's statement as an "oblique confirmation" that the vote failed to get the necessary votes to be approved.

The lobbying group Computing Technology Industry Association (CompTIA), which supports Open XML ISO ratification, on Tuesday said the ISO vote tally is a setback but not the final word on the Office Open XML standards effort.

"CompTIA remains disappointed but not disheartened with today's news of Sunday's ISO vote tally," said Hugo Lueders, group director of EU public policy for CompTIA.

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Maybe if it were actually... open?
by Penguinisto September 4, 2007 7:12 AM PDT
600+ plus pages that have references to proprietary crap embedded in it isn't exactly "open", now is it? /P
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Validation!
by Commander_Spock September 4, 2007 7:36 AM PDT
"This preliminary vote is a milestone for the widespread adoption of the Open XML formats around the world for the benefit of millions of customers. Given how encouraging today's results were, we believe that the final tally in early 2008 will result in the ratification of Open XML as an ISO standard," Tom Robertson, Microsoft's general manager for standards and interoperabilty, said in a statement...." Perhaps, in 2008 approval by the International Organisation for Standardisation (ISO)of "Open XML formats around the world for the benefit of millions of customers" but not this time around.
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When....
by Commander_Spock September 4, 2007 7:48 AM PDT
... the United States Department of Defense (Military/Economic) and IBM... were right in voting against the Microsoft sponsored OOXML ISO (combat readiness capabilities) America and the whole world won! Economic "Power" To American IT Workers! Read between the Economic Rate of Return (ERR) lines!
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If it is so open why haven't we seen it?
by inachu September 4, 2007 9:54 AM PDT
I se a lot of talk but no links to a sample document or the technical details. Personally I will still tell customers to stay away from it.
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The Pendulum Swings
by ppgreat September 4, 2007 9:56 AM PDT
This time in the other direction. Who knows next week? I think it shows that people don't have the same fear in opposing MS that they used to.
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Too bad MS won't learn from this
by The_Decider September 4, 2007 10:55 AM PDT
They will just throw more money at it instead of actually creating a document format that really is open and implementable. The vote had to go this way, ISO would have lost all credibility otherwise.
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The Pyrrhic Victory Celebration
by Len Bullard September 4, 2007 11:21 AM PDT
Over? Not hardly. 1. OOXML just got a VERY thorough review. The comments can be resolved before the next vote with few technical surprises. 2. If rejected, MS can look back at the European Union and justifiably state that they made a good faith effort and given switching costs, and some governmental entities will have to back off the standards mandates for procurements. 3. The open sourcers just shot the wad on bad publicity wounding themselves in the process. 4. Once the comments are resolved, the vote will go forward. 5. ISO will make some changes to their processes. Chairs and organizations will emulate the BSI and begin to shut the doors to non-qualified or atagonistic members (those with a history of non-technical opposition). Most of these can now be identified. OOXML will make it to standard status. Very little in the market will change. In the end, other than the black eye delivered to international standards as a means to evolve the web by consensus, the real market issue is whether or not customers have a choice. It will be interesting to see IBM and Sun defend their positions on openness vs choice. Does the term "Pyrrhic Victory" resonate?
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Wahhhhhh!
by WildSignals September 4, 2007 12:48 PM PDT
The rest of the world adopted metric, but the US didn't. And some of you whine about Microsoft. WAHHHHHHHHH.
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Not again...Their is no such thing as an MS Standard
by chash360 September 4, 2007 1:08 PM PDT
XML already has a specification, and it was not developed by MS. So what is this Open XML thing. Is that like when MS decided to violate the HTML standard and and create DHTML, and MSHTML, which created and allowed all of those security holes. Or is it more like when they tried to supplant Java with 'Visual J++'? No, I get it! they are trying to beat out Adobe with their PDF format which is already cross platform supported (even though its not open). The real question of openness... are they going to try to charge royalties to use the standard if it gets established? and will I be able to completely read-edit-write MS files without MS Software?
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Comptia?
by techned September 4, 2007 1:45 PM PDT
This article took the time to get comments from Comptia - this is the same outfit that states in its A+ exam that a machine needs to be plugged in when you work on it. This article wasn't very indepth about M$ problems to force its standard down the ISO collective throats. But then again, considering this is M$ and for M$ to have a true open standard document format, it would have to relinquish the advantages it's had in over document editing software with its propriety formats. I doubt M$ will actually do that.
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