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September 24, 2007 6:37 AM PDT

Think tank to EU: Unbundle Windows on PCs

Posted by Candace Lombardi
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The Globalization Institute, a Brussels-based European Union think tank, has recommended the EU require all PCs to be sold without preloaded operating systems such as Microsoft Windows.

There is no reason why computer operating systems could not follow the same model as computer hard drives and processors, which comply with standards that allow for broad compatibility as well as competition in the market, said the report, which was submitted to the EU's regulatory body, the European Commission.

Such a policy would lead to increased competition and innovation in the area of computer operating systems, something the Globalization Institute report said it believes the EU is looking for.

"For two decades, Microsoft has enjoyed monopolistic power in the operating system market. The Competition Commissioner has signaled the desire to see more competition in this sector. Unbundling would foster a competitive market, increase consumer choice and reduce prices," said the Globalization Institute report (click here for PDF).

The signal the institute refers to is the September 17, 2007, ruling in which the EU's Court of First Instance upheld commission rulings requiring Microsoft to share certain technical specifications with rivals and to offer customers an unbundled option in cases where Microsoft has tied together two separate products. The court ruling also upheld a $613 million antitrust fine against Microsoft that had been imposed by the European Commissioner for Competition, Neelie Kroes.

Candace Lombardi is a staff writer at CNET News.com
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I like it.
by Renegade Knight September 24, 2007 7:14 AM PDT
While most would opt for windows. MS could then bundle in everthing that most people want making it a tempting choice. Meanwhile others who want Linux don't have to deal with MS to begin with. The true cost of the OS could then be seen as well.

Win Win.
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Far from being an MS fanboy
by MacHeads September 24, 2007 7:31 AM PDT
We have to understand that the statement of the story is non
realisable. Why is that ? First Hardware support on Linux is lacking
due to contracts in between MS and Hardware vendors. Mac os X
which would be a viable alternative is never going to run on cheap
comoditized hardware such as 99.999999% of PCs today are built
upon. Open a normal PC and see the mess , open a Macpro and see
the attention brought to the hardware design.Top linux
workstations are far behind the times.
Anybody remember history
by mpir September 24, 2007 7:27 AM PDT
Anyone remember Pickles & Trout? LifeBoat? DR? How many different versionss of Linux are there?

I seem to remember something about those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it.

There are economies of scale the customer can benefit from.
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I agree with you
by MacHeads September 24, 2007 7:38 AM PDT
The infighting in Linux is taking sooo much energy in terms of
OS progress that it actually stalls nowdays. Few software houses
would come to Linux because of this . There are just too many
environments , distros , windowservers out there to obtain a
stable platform that joe and jane average can use without being
boggled to simply turn the thing off . MS as much as it is evil
may be a necessary one ... if the decision goes through
hardware vendors would have to rethink their efforts in terms of
development , something they have been very very very lacking
to do. Imagine what this would be with over 100 Linux distros.
I Totally Agree
by gravityfactory September 24, 2007 7:56 AM PDT
I have a longer history - multiple versions of DOS - some software worked on one version, but not others. You had to learn how to program just to get other packages and games to work. some hardware would not work unless you had a particluar version. It was a mess and threw productivity out the window.

Microsoft may have a monopoly - but the alternative is anarchy and that serves no one.
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Finally, some common sense
by jc4691 September 24, 2007 7:42 AM PDT
Finally, they are on the right track. It is the hardware vendors that the EU should be after and not Microsoft. However, installing an OS may be too much of a burden for the average neophyte user.

Hardware manufacturers should instead be given the option of unbundling the OS, or having Windows pre-installed with a 2nd non-Microsoft OS in a dual boot configuration. The latter option would allow consumers to directly compare operating systems and decide which they prefer working in.
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As much as i would like to agree i can't
by MacHeads September 24, 2007 8:12 AM PDT
Dual Boot installation would not push vendors hard enough to
make an effort on their drivers. It would lead to a temporary
relapse before heading back in where the Massive $$$$. That
technique was used before and with very little results.
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Apple too?
by roger.d.miller September 24, 2007 7:43 AM PDT
Would this apply to Apple too? After all, it is a PC.
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Macs are hardly PCs
by MacHeads September 24, 2007 8:00 AM PDT
When you look closely at the hardware. OS X is bundled with the
machine but it comes at no cost for the user it is the historical
system for Macs . Upgrades are cheap if not outright free if you
suscribe to a software support program (not Applecare) or are a
developer , no activation code no serial number unless you go for
Os X server which is basicly a Mac os X client with client
management capabilities DNS , DHCP , AFP services , Tomcat ,
Open Directory , Kerberos , Imap / pop3 services etc. You can build
these tools for free but the configuration takes time and energy.
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Apple have no market power
by SWBBPhil September 24, 2007 8:52 AM PDT
I suspect the EU could only do this by specifically preventing Microsoft from allowing OEMs to bundle its OS with PCs. Apple's market presence is insignificant and EU Law provides only to take action against companies with Significant Market Power who abuse the same - ie Microsoft.
why
by bbirdy202 September 24, 2007 8:11 AM PDT
There are only 2 good OS' out there OSX and XP. What's the diff? The EU should develop their own OS.
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XP Good?
by danielwsmithee September 24, 2007 8:37 AM PDT
OS X is good but there are many distros of Linux that are much
better then XP.
Why
by Newspeak finder September 24, 2007 8:44 AM PDT
Perhaps the US government OS could be used instead. What is it
called again?
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Brilliant idea
by Newspeak finder September 24, 2007 8:41 AM PDT
I hope the EU implements this idea immediately. This will fast track
innovation by promoting competition instead of monopoly.
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It won't work.
by ss_Whiplash September 24, 2007 10:24 AM PDT
You're going to ask my parents to install their own operating system????? Listen, I love choice as much as the next guy, But I'm a techie. I install OS's for fun! But asking the average consumer to buy a product, and then telling them that product will not function unless they spend another $xxx, is a retail nightmare. And no money is going to be saved when the stores start charging $50-$100 to install the OS because most people don't want to deal with it. When all is said and done this will be more expensive for the average joe, and far more confusing.
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Your right
by jc4691 September 24, 2007 10:34 AM PDT
And that's why I think hardware vendors should be given the dual boot option. That way they will know how to support their customers. How do you support your customers when they can choose from x number of operating systems?
Not to mention drivers
by pkorona September 24, 2007 10:41 AM PDT
Each of those bundled OS have a collection of drivers and settings specifically chosen for that hardward configuration. As a techie, I can build a PC from parts pretty easily, and maybe save a few bucks. But getting drivers configured makes any savings moot. Searching the net, downloading installs, trying to decipher which options are important--forget it. Just buy a preconfigured box.
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This is insane
by NewsReader_ September 24, 2007 10:47 AM PDT
Consumers buy PC's with an OS for the same reason they buy a car with tires on it. Because the average consumer does not know how to install an OS or car tires by themselves.

Businesses buy PC's with the OS installed because it drastically reduces their IT and support costs. They can work with Dell, HP, etc. to deliver brand new PC's to empolyees with OEM images that work right out of the box. Imagine the productivity loss that would incur if every employee in a company had to configure thier PC's or call the helpdesk.

Can someone please explain how shipping blank PC's will benefit consumers? Oh I forgot, you can already buy a blank PC or a PC with Linux or a Mac.

Think tank? I say fish tank :-)
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Oh boy!
by Gringras September 24, 2007 11:49 AM PDT
Okay, so I hate M$, but this is as stupid as buying a car- and then
having to go find an engine.
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Vendors should be given options
by jc4691 September 24, 2007 12:23 PM PDT
Option 1: Ship with no OS and allow user to select from more than 1 pre-configured OS. This is an important point because if the vendor only produces a restore CD for one OS that will work with their hardware, then this option is a moot point.

Option 2: Ship with a non-dominate OS (less than 50% market share) pre-installed. Again, no vendor would choose this option because they wouldn?t be able to sell in quantity.

Option 3: Ship with the dominant OS pre-installed along with another OS in a dual boot configuration. This is likely what vendors would choose since it means they can decide which alternate OS to install, and whether they will provide support or allow it be community supported. It would also mean that competition for the users? loyalty would be ongoing because the user would have more than one OS on their computer.
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Except...
by jc4691 September 24, 2007 12:47 PM PDT
I might add that these rules should only apply to PCs sold to consumers at retail. It should not apply to business PCs or servers, since they need to run their business, monopoly or not.
not even the same argument
by moofer September 24, 2007 1:21 PM PDT
You can't hold Apple in the same league as the others. They're a
vertically integrated company. They make the whole widget. If
Microsoft made hardware, they would have the right to bundle
the two together. If Dell wrote its own operating system... etc
etc. When manufacturers include OSes that have market value,
for steeply discounted prices (or free in some cases) that can be
viewed as anti-competitive.

Apple creates the entire solution. That would be like you buying
a TV without any UI, or a toaster without a timer, saying "Other
people make timers"
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Your right that Apple is not in the same league
by jc4691 September 24, 2007 1:48 PM PDT
Whoever makes the hardware is irrelevant. If OSx had more than 50% market share, the same rules should apply. The goal is the maintain a healthy competitive environment in the OS market and improve consumer value and choice.
On second thought, THIS PLAN WILL FAIL GUARANTEED!
by jc4691 September 24, 2007 7:08 PM PDT
The Globalization Institute has made some general assumptions that are not correct.

Assumption: Competing operating systems are viable alternatives.

The Reality: As much as we like to hate Microsoft, it runs almost all of the software available at retail. Most of us have an investment in software that we still need to use. It takes a significant market penetration before it becomes viable for software vendors to support another OS.

Assumption: If Windows is unbundled, the alternatives will be cheaper.

The Reality: The EU or any organization cannot dictate the price that vendors sell their software. In order the get the automated installation and configuration that is desired, it would have to be prepared by the vendor and sold by the vendor. There is no guarantee that the vendor would sell it at a desirable price.

Assumption: Windows would cost about what it does now.

The Reality: If Microsoft were forced to compete at retail, they would simply lower their price of their Vista basic operating system in order to ensure market dominance. It may even be cheaper than the available Linux alternatives! Although this would save consumers a few euros, it would ensure Microsoft?s continued monopoly. Back door politics may also ensure Windows dominance.

The only difference the Globalization Institutes suggestion would have is that instead of a monopoly by force, we would have a monopoly by choice. The end result is the same.

The ONLY way to have the competitive environment that is desired is to force vendors to install an alternate OS when Windows is pre-installed. Only then would we have sufficient market penetration for third parties to begin developing the necessary software to make competition viable. Users could still use their existing software in Microsoft?s OS while becoming familiar with the "alternative".

This would be the least harmful to end users and would in fact benefit users because they would have twice the software with their new computers.

DO NOT even allow vendors to ship without an OS since it may be used as a loophole to perpetuate the Microsoft monopoly.
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Ubuntu L:inux: Better than Microsoft
by ghormax September 27, 2007 12:41 PM PDT
I think Ubuntu Linux poses a serious challenge to MS because it is easy to install and use. It runs stable, boots fast even on lower end machines and shut down is easy too. Automatic updates protected by password which also applies for downloaded software (this helps prevent your children from downloading rogue software and installing viruses). Hardly ever any need to know linux command line! It also supports all my hardware! And there is tons of software to download and install right from the menu bar. But best of all, the operating system is free. Even an upgrade to a new version is. I have to use MS at work and I really miss Ubuntu! I think this distro should be made the standard alternative operating system when buying a PC! Instead of forbidding bundling, one could also imagine hardware manufacturers to be required to ALWAYS bundle it with at least two different OS. That would give the customer a real choice!
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DO IT
by ethana2 September 27, 2007 1:41 PM PDT
I would /love/ to see three PC's side by side running Windows Vista, Ubuntu Ultimate, and Mac OSX.

Compiz fusion FTW!
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