November 19, 2007 12:26 PM PST

MPAA: Linking college funding, piracy is 'perfectly legitimate'

WASHINGTON--What's wrong with Congress being a little stingy about doling out taxpayer dollars to universities if they let peer-to-peer file-sharing pirates run amok on campus networks?

Not a thing, says the Motion Picture Association of America's top lawyer in the nation's capital.

MPAA Washington general counsel Fritz Attaway

(Credit: Declan McCullagh/mccullagh.org)

On the heels of a House of Representatives committee's passage of a higher-education funding bill that includes new antipiracy obligations for universities that participate in federal financial aid programs, MPAA Washington general counsel Fritz Attaway suggested it's reasonable to condition federal education funding on copyright enforcement efforts.

"When the government is subsidizing universities...and it discovers that those universities are spending a lot of taxpayers' money to build digital networks that are being used primarily to allow college students to traffic in infringing content, I think it's perfectly legitimate for Congress to say, wait a minute, if we're giving you money, we don't want it to be used to help college kids infringe copyright," Attaway said during a panel discussion here Monday that was organized by the Federal Communications Bar Association.

At the same time, Attaway attempted to diffuse alarms universities and fair-use advocates are sounding about the House's higher-education bill. Embedded in the more-than-700-page bill is a requirement that universities devise plans for providing their students alternatives to illegal downloading and developing technology-based filters to keep offending content out of students' hands in the first place.

The MPAA vice president emphasized that there's technically no requirement under the bill that universities actually sign up for such "alternatives," namely subscription-based music services like Ruckus.com and Napster, nor that they actually activate the filters they're planning to develop. Committee aides close to the bill-drafting process have denied that schools would see their funding yanked if they didn't come up with satisfactory plans, even if Attaway seemed to suggest that wouldn't be a bad idea.

University representatives who oppose the provision have acknowledged, too, that they're not sure what exactly the punishment would be for failing to craft such plans, although some have read the bill to say their schools would no longer be eligible for at least some student financial aid programs.

Attaway's defense of the bill drew a sharp rebuke, however, from Gigi Sohn, president of the digital-rights advocacy group Public Knowledge. "Why do you put things in bills that you don't want to enforce at some point?" she asked. "Even if I agree, and I don't, that it's toothless, I don't want that language in there for some other Congress to give it some teeth."

There's still a chance that the Hollywood-backed provision won't survive any final version of the legislation. That's what happened when a similar proposal came before the U.S. Senate this summer. The full House is expected to debate the broader higher-education funding bill soon after it returns from its Thanksgiving recess in early December.

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PRIMARILY?? - Bitter pot of rhetoric stew
by dcholloway November 19, 2007 12:57 PM PST
"When the government is subsidizing universities...to build digital networks that are being used primarily to allow college students to traffic in infringing content..."

Is this guy quite possibly the biggest idiot alive?

College students use the Internet for PRIMARILY facebook.

Secondly we use it to actually do work.

Thirdly, universities aren't even PRIMARILY the biggest copyright infringement offenders.

This guy needs to check his facts.

He sounds PRIMARILY like a demagogue trying to stir up a big pot of bitter-tasting rhetoric stew.
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In the year 2000 ....
by ficklepickle November 19, 2007 12:57 PM PST
... litigious content providers will demand a cut of the federal income tax to offset "losses" due to copyright infringement. It's only fair, after all the feds funded the internet, and as such the government and the people are complicit in the rampant disregard for producer's rights at the hands of college students who have too much time on their hands. Maybe they'll demand reparations in addition to corporate welfare.
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Public funding for commercial interests? I don't think so
by winstein November 19, 2007 1:10 PM PST
If MPAA don't want people to copy their movies, encrypt the movies with the latest technology and sell digital downloads, don't sell DVDs.

You can't have it both ways.
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= MPAA joins the War on the Middle Class
by menotbug November 19, 2007 1:19 PM PST
Soon we will all be either Poor or Rich.
Either your parents are rich enough to put you through college,
or you don't go at all and have to be poor the rest of your life
because you can't get a good job without that diploma, and
you can't get the diploma without being rich.

College education should be available to all, at least the "all"
who show the right amount of determination to learn and make
good grades. But the costs continue to skyrocket, and the
dollar weakens. Each step we take in the wrong direction
should be re-evaluated, and this article shows us one.
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If you own a computer ...
by Pete Bardo November 19, 2007 1:41 PM PST
with a CD burner and you also own copyrighted CD's, then you have the ability to violate the copyright. Just as you had that ability when you owned both a turntable and a cassette recorder. Therefore, owning a computer with a CD burner should be illegal, too. And any university that has students who own such computers should be denied access to federal funds.

If you walk into a music store where CD's are being sold, you have the means to attempt to steal them and, therefore, should be arrested upon entering the store!

Free country? Give me a break!
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Idiot.
by Penguinisto November 19, 2007 2:18 PM PST
The United States Gov't is (ostensibly) supposed to serve The People, not "The Corporation".

There is nothing in the US Constitution that gives your association/cartel the right to exist in spite of a failing business model, crap content, and anti-consumer attitude.

/P
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Subsidizing piracy?
by fokwp November 19, 2007 3:23 PM PST
No more subsidies to oil companies until they stop changing the climate?

No more tax breaks for tobacco farmers until they take all the carcinogens out of their product?

No more funding for highway projects until they figure out how to stop highway deaths?

No more funding of wars until they end the collateral damage?

No more funding of nuclear plants until . . . etc.

Hey, this could really work!
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He's kidding, right?
by chuck_whealton November 19, 2007 4:20 PM PST
"taxpayers' money to build digital networks that are being used primarily to allow college students to traffic in infringing content,"

He's kidding, right? "primarily" to infringe? Some great research comes out of our universities and colleges and their networks are one of the tools they use to aid them in that great research.

How does this guy come off saying that? Where is he getting this information? Does he have statistics showing infringing use versus legitimate use?

I'm not sticking up for illegally downloading music or anything else, but that seems so far fetched that it's not even funny.

Charles R. Whealton
Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com
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Fritz Attaway...
by XoneDaGnome November 19, 2007 4:24 PM PST
... did mommy and daddy pay your way though college?
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Who Cares?
by Mergatroid Mania November 19, 2007 5:16 PM PST
Who cares what the MPAA says? They're out to serve their own interests. Why would anyone care what they have to say about university funding?

MPAA: Keep your nose out of the education system.
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We Should Meet in the Middle
by paulej November 19, 2007 5:29 PM PST
While the university networks are not "primarily" used for piracy, I would personally have no objection if the Universities taking steps to thwart any illegal use as long as the MPAA pays for all of the associated costs. I do NOT want my tax dollars being used for the financial benefit of the MPAA.

Paul
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That's just brilliant (sarcasm)
by Anysia November 19, 2007 6:06 PM PST
Punish the entire school for the actions of some. Who is in charge of the US? The MPAA and the RIAA seem to think they are, as they are seemingly setting policy.
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Who are we keeping money from?
by Luna M November 19, 2007 10:31 PM PST
Yeah, why would I want to give money to people trying to learn, anyway? Better for them to be uneducated, poor and well under the heel of the law than intelligent thieves. Darn kids think they're so important, who needs 'em?

Seriously, this lawyer is full of crap. By withholding funds from colleges, they're screwing over the kids, not just the colleges. Whether we like it or not, higher education is a money-fueled business.

More importantly, if my tax dollars aren't going to funding college tuitions, what ARE they funding? Bombs?
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Lets clear the air...
by dargon19888 November 19, 2007 11:11 PM PST
The article is that the MPAA wants to cut funding to Universities that do not play ball with the MPAA.

Clearly no one, not even the MPAA disputes this.

Their logic is that if the university isn't paying up to the MPAA on behalf of their students, then they are defacto supporting students in their copyright infringements.

Their argument is that the govt shouldn't fund education to universities that do not "teach the proper moral values."

Clearly this is misguided lobbying on the part of MPAA. Because some students decide to break the law, doesn't mean that the universities condone their action.

The universities are not the police and are not the MPAA.

Yes, ironically the MPAA does have a point. If you are sharing music that you didn't purchase, you're violating copyrights and should be held accountable.

But this point is lost due to their grandstanding.

Two wongs don't make a wright. ;-)
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Media (A limited few rich people) own the Goverment
by CLBradford November 20, 2007 1:08 AM PST
Let's see how long this stays up, but the fact is the public is feed what they think buy Goverment and Media.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13062.htm
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Is Movie Piracy Really That Bad???
by frankz00 November 20, 2007 5:47 AM PST
I think movies are doing quite okay considering. They make a ton of money because they're very smart about their back catalogs. What I mean is that it's much easier and more convenient for me to walk into Walmart or Circuit City and pay $5 - 10 for an older movie than it is to torrent.

I just don't think it's worth it for them to make a-holes out of themselves when it's not as bad a situation as it is for music.

In either case, both music companies and movie companies need to learn to work with the new technical realities or they will die. Legislation is not going to fix their situation.
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Seriously
by raptorirq6665 November 20, 2007 6:28 AM PST
if this guy actually believes any of that ignorant crap, he should be disbarred. The entire Copyright law is corrupt and needs to be rewritten. It's not the people's fault if the government and the major record labels are 10 years behind the rest of us.
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stupid!!!
by dgrant6230 November 20, 2007 7:00 AM PST
This has got to be the stupidist thing I've heard in quite some time. What about roads? They're used for drug trafficing, speeding, illegal alien smuggling and bunches of other illegal activities. Is Congress going to cut their subsidies too?
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How utterly ignorant.
by E McCann November 20, 2007 12:18 PM PST
Cars are sometimes used by people who download music, too. Maybe we should cut drivers ed funding? (Oh, wait, education budgets already get gutted.) People might use busses while listening to downloaded music or watching ripped movies - or even *gasp* going to buy an MP3 player, some of which can play music! Perhaps we should tie funding for public transportation to piracy measures!

The MPAA needs to get slapped down, as does the RIAA, HARD. They're out of freaking control.
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yeah lets defund already defunded colleges
by dondarko November 22, 2007 9:40 AM PST
and make the cost of going to college even more expensive and unattainable. that's perfect recipe for future disaster in this country. While the rest of the world continues to expand and make higher education more affordable we're going the opposite way.

RIAA and music industry need to take a look at themselves and why piracy is happening to them first and foremost.
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