January 17, 2008 11:22 AM PST

Time Warner to test metered Web use

Time Warner Cable is testing a new pricing structure where heavy broadband users will be charged based on how much data they transfer, a company spokesman said Wednesday.

A trial for the new pricing scheme is expected to begin in Beaumont, Texas, later this year. Time Warner is testing the new pricing model to see if it can curb usage of peer-to-peer applications on its network, said Alex Dudley, a spokesman for the company.

Peer-to-peer protocols allow users to access content that is distributed throughout the network on other computers running the same application. It's commonly used to transfer music and video files, as well as other large data files.

Service providers, such as AT&T, Comcast, and Time Warner, have been complaining recently that peer-to-peer traffic eats up valuable bandwidth. AT&T argues that much of this traffic is used to distribute illegal content, and the company is testing filtering technology to block it.

Comcast has taken a different approach. It has used traffic shaping to slow down some kinds of peer-to-peer traffic. These moves have prompted outcries from consumer groups, and the Federal Communications Commission is currently investigating whether Comcast has violated any of its policies or principles.

Meanwhile, Time Warner thinks that metering bandwidth usage will help solve the problem.

"The idea is to create a more consistent, enhanced experience for our customers," Dudley said. "We can't allow a small percentage of customers to use an inordinate amount of the network to the detriment of the majority of customers."

My first impression of this new model is that Time Warner is treading on some dangerous territory. What is ironic to me is that the company will probably scare off the very high-end customers it wants to attract.

Think about this. Today Time Warner offers a fixed priced for data service. The fastest speed service available is for 10 Mbps downloads and 512 kbps uploads for $44.95 a month. Someone who is willing to spend $45 a month for 10 Mbps of bandwidth is probably the same person who uses peer-to-peer applications. Your basic run-of-the-mill users are probably subscribing to the cheaper 1.5 Mbps/256 kbps service for $29.95

I can almost guarantee you that the $44.95 customers are also savvy enough to know that they are going to lose in the metered-Web model. And they will likely just switch to a competitor, such as Verizon Communications, which offers 15 Mbps downloads and 2 Mbps uploads on its Fios fiber service for $53 a month. Of course, the problem for most consumers is that Fios isn't available everywhere.

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TWC and AT&T
by R. U. Sirius January 17, 2008 11:44 AM PST
Anyone bothered by the fact that net neutrality seems to be vanishing quicker than the Dodo? Is anyone bothered that AT&T wants to inspect all our packets? Is anyone bothered by the NYTimes story today that some government dude is saying we need to allow him the right to monitor everything we do on the net? What has happened to the idea of freedom? This all goes well beyond tiered services. I for one do not want the Internet to look or feel like cable TV with a big brother back end. But it sure seems like that's where it's going.
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I take a bit offense to your article.
by ColdFireDragon January 17, 2008 11:57 AM PST
You state "Someone who is willing to spend $45 a month for 10 Mbps of bandwidth is probably the same person who uses peer-to-peer applications." I spend that for an 8Mb connection where I live. I do not use peer to peer but I play online games and I want low latency and my patches and maps to download in an instant. Or if I want to watch some online videos I want them to load fast. I hate waiting. But I don't use P2P. I don't have a use for it, I do not pirate anything and IMHO that is about the only reason to use P2P.
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Dont bash the right idea
by CmdrRickHunter January 17, 2008 12:10 PM PST
This is the correct solution, don't bash it. 1) Hosting has been doing it for years.... in fact, for almost the entire history of hosting. Why? because you pay for what you use 2) There is no alternative. As we've seen, filtering and traffic shaping just angers customers. The ISPs wont let you have something for nothing, its a given 3) Its financially infesable to provide 10mb connections always on, at residential prices. If you want that, you get your own fractional T1... Your bandwidth is, you guessed it, your bandwidth. For those of us not paying $200+ for internet, a compromise has to occur. For the longest time, ISPs attracted customers with ever increasing max bandwidths on the assumption that no user could maintain downloads across it for any decent period of time. With P2P, we broke that assumption, so the ISPs have to go back to actually charging for what we use, instead of hopped up numbers 4) I guarentee you that these new 10mb connections with metering come with "X free GB of transfer." The only people affected are going to be those who were actually using more than could be afforded 5) With customers traffic shaping their own traffic, and having to pay for bandwidth, the P2P networks will mediate themselves, and YOU get more of the bandwidth they took up. I've been begging for the ISPs to go to metered net usage for months... ever since I heard of net neutrality. God forbid a ISP customer actually have to pay for what internet they actually use, instead of some bundled number based on "average use" estimates.
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I'll say it again
by Ushiikun January 17, 2008 12:15 PM PST
Maybe if they worked to find a way to stop spam\malware\viruses from moving through their network, they wouldn't have the problem of their network being maxxed out. And didn't we used to have metered internet back in the dialup days when you paid $50 a month for 30 hours of connection time? I also have to agree with an above poster. Many of the people I know who pay for the higher rates are hosting their own webpages, mailservers and playing online games. If they had metered internet connections, services like Xbox Live, iTunes, Netflix, etc which allow for legal contect download would flop overnight, because not only are you paying for the file, your are then going to get charged, because HD movies are fairly large, for moving all that data through the pipes.
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This Will Soon Become A Pricing Scheme Like Cell Phone Service
by sismoc January 17, 2008 12:19 PM PST
I can see it now... "What plan do you want sir?" Plan?? Please explain "Well, we have the 250 MB plan for $29.95." "And we have the 500 MB plan for $44.95." "And we have the 1000 MB plan for $69.95." "And all the plans include 100 MB free on nights and weekends" ???? How do I know what plan to buy? "Well, if you go over your plan, we will just charge you by the byte for any overage." $$$$$$$$$$$ Ching!!! $$$$$$$$$ Ching!!!!!!
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Profit from illicit activities?
by catbutt5 January 17, 2008 12:32 PM PST
If Time Warner knows people are transferring pirated materials, then they should terminate the offending accounts per their terms of service agreement. All they're doing with this move is attempting to profit from those same criminal activities. How can anyone use more bandwidth than they are already paying for? If I've paid for a $45 a month account with 10Mbps of bandwidth and I use all 10Mbps of it 24 hours a day 365 days a year, I'm entirely within my rights. If downloading 10Mbps all day every day causes performance problems for other users, that proves the ISP has severely oversold their available bandwidth and they're trying to shift the blame. With recently legitimized movie download services supposedly the wave of the future, overselling network capacity like they have been isn't going to work.
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UNACCEPTABLE! I should be able to use my $44.95/mo service how I want...no
by zincmann January 17, 2008 12:51 PM PST
questions asked. As long as I am not doing anything that is deemed illegal, sharing government secrets or what not, what I do is protected under some umbrella of privacy and I should not be punished. Too bad Time Warner that your networks are slowed down, not my problem that you need to keep your price where it is to stay competitive, thats life. If you try to do this, I will just switch back to DSL, TRUST ME in our market t here are MANY options and I hope you read this. Your treading on thin ice if you do that, MAYBE you should start changing your cable to metered also, if I watch more I should be charged more, some people are watching TV Constantly, charge them more, I hardly watch TV on your Cable service charge me less. Oh wait, you wouldnt make money now would you??
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Sounds like they are unable to handle the load
by Morale Officer January 17, 2008 12:52 PM PST
I think this sounds like they are unable to handle the load. I also doubt they will lower the price for the casual users. I have a vonage phone and I am sure they will charge me extra and try to force me to use their digital phone for a lot more. They are also slowwwwwww to bump up to faster speeds for the average user. I loved disconnecting my phone from the phone company when I had the alternative of going to VOIP and getting rid of the meter for local an long distance. TWC's just as bad if they are going to start the meter. They need a good competitor to keep them humble and customer oriented and not customer hostile.
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You'll never stop online piracy
by Willie Winkie January 17, 2008 1:11 PM PST
The isp's are just playing flunky for the content providers. They want to put the internet genie back in the bottle. Well they can kiss my pirate a**! That's not possible. And yes; I download TONS of content via BitTorrent. In December alone I pushed 1/2 a terabyte over my connection. I pay a handsome fee for the privileged.
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It's obvious: The free ride is over.
by WJeansonne January 17, 2008 1:37 PM PST
Broadband providers should simply take on a surcharge for anyone using P2P technology on their networks and leave the rest of us alone.
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