February 5, 2008 5:32 PM PST

eBay sellers to be banned from criticizing buyers

In a move to curtail retaliation by vengeful sellers in its feedback system, eBay plans to prohibit sellers from posting negative feedback about their customers.

Beginning in May, sellers will not be able to leave negative or even neutral comments about their customers, only positive feedback, said spokesman Usher Lieberman.

(Credit: eBay)
Sellers are crying foul, saying the policy change isn't fair.

But Lieberman says some sellers have been abusing the system, retaliating against customers who leave them negative feedback. And that has left many buyers afraid to leave honest comments, or even use the site, period, he says.

"The No. 1 reason buyers cited for decreasing or ceasing their activity on eBay was negative unwarranted retaliatory feedback they received from sellers," Lieberman says. "There has been a four-fold increase in this over the last several years. It's cited as a bigger problem than even not receiving shipment."

Meanwhile, eBay is offering more solutions to protect sellers when customers don't pay.

The move is the latest in a series of changes that involves how search results on the site will be displayed and recently announced fees for listing items.

For the record, I have nothing but good things to say about the person I bought a white embroidered linen shower curtain from last month on eBay.

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Another hit to sellers...
by ekracinski February 5, 2008 6:18 PM PST
If a customer doesn't fulfill their obligation in paying on time, that is a problem and other sellers need to know about that, just as potential buyers need to know if a seller gives good service or is someone to avoid doing business with. This is a bad move on eBay's part and just one of many reasons that I will not sell there anymore. As a former PowerSeller, I can tell you stories about customers screwing me over and me having to take it, with little or no recourse. All I could do was leave negative feedback. Under this new system, even that is taken away from sellers. Pathetic. Buyers can trash a seller, but sellers cannot give honest feedback. This renders the feedback system absolutely useless.
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eBay? That's SO 1999
by henebry February 5, 2008 6:18 PM PST
Strange, but I don't think I've used eBay in years to sell or buy anything. I was a regular user for many years, beginning in the mid-nineties, buying any number of things from rare comic books to used mac laptops to fossils. I got burned a few times, most notably a bunch of poorly mastered DVDs which were almost certainly pirated from a VCR collection. And, over the years, I became more and more leery of the process, the anxiety about whether a bid would go through, whether a shipment would arrive, whether the product would be as advertised. My biggest gripe? Not the feedback system (though one seller-- the buy with the pirated DVDs did retaliate against me). Rather, the bidding system, which I am convinced tends to maximize prices for sellers. Now I do my shopping for used cds and comics over on Amazon, where the prices are lower (and fixed!) and the service more dependable. But I do miss the ethos of the early eBay years. Most sellers were amateurs back then, selling stuff they didn't need any more. And in buying you could build up good environmental karma. Nowadays they're all professionals, selling mostly new stuff at discount prices. The amateurs have moved to Craigslist.
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There are always two sides to any arguement
by Mergatroid Mania February 5, 2008 6:21 PM PST
I work at an electronics servicing company. I know that sometimes comsumers have unreasonable demands. If a buyer gives a seller a negative review, the seller should have the right to rebut that point of view. I remember being in line at a local electronics store last year. The guy ahead of me was upset that the store wouldn't take back the portable DVD player he had purchased. Upset enough to be raising his voice. Too bad the portable DVD player was in pieces. There was absolutely no reason the store should have taken back an abused and broken item. Yet, if this had of taken place on eBay, the buyer would have the right to tell everyone how he got ripped off by the seller, but the seller would not have the right to tell people what actually happened, and how the customer was trying to rip off both the seller and possibily the manufacturer if he was trying to claim warranty. If I was a big seller on eBay, I would seriously start thinking about switching auction companies. Does selling on eBay not actually mean literally "The customer is always right", even if he blatantly is not right? The truth is a three edged sword. You're view, My view and what actually happened. Leave it up to the people to read your view and my view and decide the truth for themselves.
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by tdreher February 5, 2008 7:23 PM PST
I agree with you, however I am also a victim of what ebay is stopping. I ordered something from ebay, paid for overnight shipping, well long story short, over a week later I got the item, which was not even what I had paid for. I left negative feedback try to warn others of my experience, to which the seller returned the favor, forcing me to withdraw. I think this is a great thing and will help buyers have a more honest view of they people they are paying.
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An alternative strategy
by sparticus1701 February 5, 2008 7:44 PM PST
I recently had the experience in question. An eBay seller gave me negative feedback because I had done so. The reason I did it was because I paid $15 for UPS and he sent it $6 USPS, and then didn't respond to my emails about it. My main eBay gripe is that sellers wait till they get their feedback to give yours. If I pay on time, that's the sellers basis for feedback and all the buyer should be judged on. You can make an argument that there are some buyers that go freaky after they get the item, but that's not usually the case. The strategy I would suggest is that comments for sellers remain in unseen limbo until they have posted their comments on the buyer. Since many sellers won't answer complaints till a negative is made, a second strategy would be to have a 'cold war': Don't finalize negative comments until the parties have a chance to respond and work it out. Finally, I wish negative comments could be appealed to eBay and removed. My first negative comment was from a troll who created fake auctions just to create fake negatives.
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Bad Idea
by RomanG07 February 5, 2008 7:53 PM PST
One of the things that kept comments honest on eBay was the fact that a false negative comment by one party could be reciprocated by the other. Now, there is nothing from stopping buyers from leaving negative feedback for any reason whatsoever. In fact, since feedback is sooooo critical to successful eBaying, it weakens sellers significantly as they'll be forced to capitulate to any demand the buyer makes since its the only way to keep their feedback pristine. Keep in mind, many sellers are just people like you and me who sell things occasionally as well as buy things occasionally on eBay. Not all of us are storefronts or PowerSellers. Nonpayment is not the only problem sellers face and this move will significantly weaken sellers on eBay. At the least, I think Sellers should be allowed to publicly respond to negative feedback so someone reading the review can at least hear both sides of the story when disputes are involved. Also, the thing with buyers being afraid to leave negative feedback is a bit of a one-sided view. If a buyer does suffer from retaliation by a seller, they can always setup a new account and its not that difficult to buy stuff with 0 feedback. But if you're a seller and you receive negative feedback, your ability to sell gets hurt and setting up a new account would only hurt you more since people don't want to buy things from individuals with zero feedback.
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Sellers Should Be Prevented From Being Retaliatory
by sismoc February 5, 2008 8:12 PM PST
A better way to fix the eBay feedback system would be to make it a "Seller Goes First" system. If a buyer leaves negative feedback for a seller the seller should NOT have opportunity to retaliate. If the seller wants to leave feedback for a buyer then they should leave their feedback before the buyer leaves their feedback. Too many sellers say "I only leave feedback after you leave me feedback". If the buyer has paid promptly why wouldn't an honest seller leave positive feedback for the buyer? The rip off artists have abused the eBay feedback system for too long. Change was way overdue.
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Retalliation feedback
by TimVFR February 5, 2008 8:45 PM PST
I was on the receiving end of a retalliation feedback from a seller with an automated response. I never had any negative feedback until I was forced into leaving a negative one for a seller, and within seconds I was hit with one. I tried for months for eBay to resolve it, and they wouldn't. I think there should be a system in place for removal of this type of feedback.
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Here Here!
by DatabaseDoctor February 5, 2008 8:58 PM PST
Many many years ago, I too was subject to retaliatory negative remarks from a vindictive seller. From that point on, I would not leave negative feedback for fear of some jerk ruining my hard earned (now near perfect) feedback. Years later, I still have that one negative mark against me. Have I used ebay less for it? To some degree. I don't use it as often due to the lack of qualified sellers. But here's to Ebay for protecting the buyers!
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My Mama said...
by kingsnoofer February 5, 2008 9:24 PM PST
I was brought up with many good values. Not the least of which was "If you can't say something nice about someone don't say anything at all." Sage advice. It has got me out of plenty of scrapes. With that in mind I agree with the removal of non-positive feedback. But remove it from both sides. If the establishment fears a rampage of retalliatory comments then they should take the non-positives away from buyers too. Not doing so would give a buyer the power to besmirch the name of a seller without any chance or threat of recompense. To this end I suggest a kudos system. Instead of a list of positives and negatives. Fore example, My friend has about 50 positives and one negative. A good record. Given the ratio most people would overlook the negative and chalk it up to a bad day or an immature participant. But if we were to see a ratio of the number of completed transactions to the number of kudos, or positives, it would give as well a rounded picture of the seller or buyer. If someone were to be unhappy they could choose to not give kudos and the ratio would drop slightly. If someone felt they were wronged by the lack of comment then they too could simply decline to leave a comment. People with high transaction to kudos ratios would be trusted more often. It is simple and plain. Moreover the transition to this system is done very easily. Ebay has all the data and could just remove the negatives and leave positives vs the number of completed transactions. On a personal note I could see this method benefiting buyers and sellers alike. If I completed a transaction and received no comment it would compell me to communicate with the other party and discuss what I could do better or even make amends. Either way it's better than a maddening and anticlimatic fight with Ebay to remove an unwarranted comment.
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