April 23, 2008 10:11 AM PDT

Interview: Microsoft's Rob Bennett defends DRM decision

Rob Bennett knew people were going to be angry.

Bennett is the Microsoft executive who notified former customers of the now defunct MSN Music service on Tuesday that the company would no longer issue DRM keys for their songs after August 31. This means that, while former customers can listen to their music on authorized computers for as long as the hardware lasts, they won't be able to transfer songs to a new PC after that deadline.

"Had we had the ability to deliver DRM-free tracks at the time, we absolutely would have done that. We talked to the labels at the time about that."
--Rob Bennett, Microsoft executive

In an interview with CNET News.com, Bennett said that continuing to support the DRM keys was impractical, that the issue only affects a "small number" of people and that focusing exclusively on Zune was the best way to go. He also noted that it wasn't Microsoft's decision to wrap music into digital rights management.

The reason for shutting down the DRM-licensing servers was "every time there is an OS upgrade, the DRM equation gets complex very quickly," said Bennett, general manager of entertainment, video, and sports for MSN. "Every time, you saw support issues. People would call in because they couldn't download licenses. We had to write new code, new configurations each time...We really believe that, going forward, the best thing to do is focus exclusively on Zune."

Microsoft shut down MSN Music in November 2006, following a failed effort to turn the site into a legitimate iTunes challenger. Redmond threw its resources behind the Zune digital music player and its music store, Marketplace.

For the past 18 months, Microsoft has continued to enable former customers of MSN Music to move their song libraries to new computers. Discontinuing that service has been widely criticized. Critics have long said that DRM was a means to control legally purchased music at the expense of consumers. To them, the current situation with MSN proves it.

Bennett defended Microsoft. He said the company never wanted DRM on its songs.

"Had we had the ability to deliver DRM-free tracks at the time, we absolutely would have done that," Bennett said. "We talked to the labels at the time about that. As a company, we have continued to push for this. Zune has a subset in their catalog of DRM-free MP3s. Now, the industry is making progress. The labels are understanding the downside of DRM when its used the way they wanted to use it, they end up punishing the users who bought music legally more than those who want to circumvent the system."

Bennett added that Microsoft believes in protecting intellectual property, but the company also wants people to enjoy their media without unreasonable restrictions.

"No one ever foresaw being in this situation," Bennett said. "It's not something we like to do. We want to make it easy and as painless for our customers as possible. We really feel, in the long term, what's best for people who want to buy music from Microsoft is to move to Zune."

Bennett said that former MSN Music customers can back up their songs by burning them to CDs. But what about the loss of sound quality should they decide to rerip the music?

"We (delivered) music at 160 kbps," Bennett said. "In my personal (experience), you're not going to lose that much fidelity."

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Then you had better be issuing refunds
by MyRightEye April 23, 2008 10:46 AM PDT
Or cop a lawsuit.
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This is not news to MSN Music customers but
by streamOG April 23, 2008 11:19 AM PDT
it is a good story for CNet to drive page views which puts money in their pockets. Rob shouldn't have to defend something to non-customers that his customers knew about almost a year ago. MSN Music has been dead for some time and has been sending customers to Zune. That's a fact jack. Refunds?? for what? For following the agreement the customer signed when they joined the service. I don't think so.
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If I may quote...
by close5828 April 23, 2008 11:20 AM PDT
...Howard Dean, loosely. "I hate [Microsoft] and everything they stand for"
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But it's ok for Apple to make the entire DRM Industry right?
by streamOG April 23, 2008 11:28 AM PDT
so funny how emotional people get with Microsoft about the same practices that Apple employs.
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LIES. Microsoft has-- been trying for a long time to get people to....
by JCPayne April 23, 2008 1:06 PM PDT
... choose their Windows Media Player over-- the MP3 format. So much soo they took away the ability to encode in MP3 format from Windows Media Player... In part because they wanted to control DRM and if they secured the monopoly in it it would be hell to pay for the competitors.... -- Example. Microsoft Media Player shreds your rights By Charlie Demerjian: Thursday, 21 September 2006, 10:08 AM http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquirer/news/2006/09/21/microsoft-media-player-shreds-your-rights THINK DRM WAS bad already? Think I was joking when I said the plan was to start with barely tolerable incursions on your rights, then turn the thumbscrews? Welcome to Windows Media Player 11, and the rights get chipped away a lot more. Get used to the feeling, if you buy DRM infected media, you will only have this happen with increasing rapidity. [http:// . . . |http:// . . . ] --
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Time for Microsoft to issue a DRM stripping device
by Leria April 23, 2008 1:19 PM PDT
For songs that have been bought off MSN Music. If they don't issue that, expect to see BOATLOADS of lawsuits against them when people realize that their music cannot be played anymore when they switch/upgrade their computers.
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Steve Jobs was RIGHT once again...
by frankz00 April 23, 2008 1:28 PM PDT
And I smell a big stinky class action coming soon... It is time to accept "The Messiah" as your savior!
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Someday, the same thing will happen with WinXP
by DougDbug April 23, 2008 2:14 PM PDT
"I'm sorry, you can not re-install WinXP, because Microsoft no-longer supports XP activation."
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no profit in keeping license servers running
by watugit April 23, 2008 9:13 PM PDT
We're sorry we're not making any money by issuing licenses so you can use content you legally purchased so we'll just shut down the servers. By the way we have this lousy iPod wannabe called a Zune that you have to buy and don't forget to fork out more money to rebuy the content you already purchased because you won't be able to use your existing tracks anymore. In a few months we plan to discontinue Zune so you'll have to buy another lousy gizmo we come up with then and rebuy your content yet again if you want to continue listening to stuff you've already purchased many times before. We make more money by selling poorly supported barely functioning gizmos anyway.
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I call BS.
by quarky42 April 24, 2008 6:26 AM PDT
"No one ever foresaw being in this situation," Bennett said. Bull! Bull$h!t. When DRM first came out I remember tons of posts from people saying that this would happen. People would lose their libraries of music under various conditions. No one foresaw it? Sure they did, but like usual MicroShaft and the music industry doesn't care what the fans want, only how they can monetize a product and push that product. They don't care about taking care of customers. If they cared about taking care of customers then they would release the specs on their DRM used in those files... I'm sure someone out there would be glad to write a program that strips the DRM from those files. This is exactly why I will never purchase a downloadable music file if it contains DRM. I am also not very likely to buy a non-DRM file when the prices are around the $1 per track price point. If I can buy 3 or 4 songs for a hard earned dollar, then I would gladly do it. For I rip my own cds and record tracks off the satellite radio.
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