April 23, 2008 11:48 AM PDT

FBI wants widespread monitoring of 'illegal' Internet activity

WASHINGTON--The FBI on Wednesday called for new legislation that would allow federal police to monitor the Internet for "illegal activity."

The suggestion from FBI Director Robert Mueller, which came during a House of Representatives Judiciary Committee hearing, appears to go beyond a current plan to monitor traffic on federal-government networks. Mueller seemed to suggest that the bureau should have a broad "omnibus" authority to conduct monitoring and surveillance of private-sector networks as well.

The surveillance should include all Internet traffic, Mueller said, "whether it be .mil, .gov, .com--whichever network you're talking about." (See the transcript of the hearing.)

In response to questions from Rep. Darrell Issa, a California Republican, Mueller said his idea "balances on one hand, the privacy rights of the individual who are receiving the information, but on the other hand, given the technology, the necessity of having some omnibus search capability utilizing filters that would identify the illegal activity as it comes through and give us the ability to preempt that illegal activity where it comes through a choke point."

In response, Issa said: "Can you have someone on your staff designated to work with members of Congress on trying to craft that legislation?"

If any omnibus Internet-monitoring proposal became law, it could implicate the Fourth Amendment's guarantee of freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures. In general, courts have ruled that police need search warrants to obtain the content of communication, and the federal Wiretap Act created "super warrant" wiretap orders that require additional steps and judicial oversight.

In addition, it's unclear whether "illegal activity" would be limited to responding to denial-of-service attacks and botnets, or would also include detecting other illegal activities, such as online gambling, the distribution of "obscene" images of adults engaged in sexual acts, or selling drugs without a license.

Robert Mueller

Robert Mueller

(Credit: FBI )

To be fair, Wednesday's discussion of the plan was geared toward cybercrime and the Bush administration's classified "cyberinitiative," which includes a shadowy program known as Einstein.

Some politicians have already raised concerns that even Einstein, which is described as dealing only with government networks and not private ones, could infringe upon the privacy rights of American citizens. It's already in place at 15 federal agencies, but Homeland Security has said it's still preparing the necessary privacy impact assessments for a proposed $293 million governmentwide Einstein expansion.

Issa, for his part, referred on Wednesday to malicious attacks being undertaken by foreign and domestic hackers who want to "take control of computers" and harvest the national-security secrets and private information of government agencies, private companies, and individual Americans.

"What authorities do you need to monitor, looking for those illegal activities, and then act on those, both defensively and, either yourselves or certainly other agencies, offensively in order to shut down a crime in process?" Issa asked.

In response, Mueller said he would be happy to have his legislative staff work with members of Issa's committee on creating a bill for a broader-reaching surveillance system.

Issa suggested that perhaps the FBI already has the power to seek voluntary private-sector partners that would like to be "defended" by its agents, provided that they give the FBI their consent. Mueller, however, wasn't so sure, saying, "that's going to require some thought."

[6:00 pm: Updated story with additional quotations from transcript of the hearing.]

CNET News.com's Declan McCullagh contributed to this report.

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It was bound to end this way
by DrDubious April 23, 2008 12:37 PM PDT
The Internet is dead.
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Goverment Monitoring
by tremorfireheart April 23, 2008 12:55 PM PDT
this law being push through seems to be another way for the Goverment to make up for the loss in the FISA Ammendment granting immunity to telecom companies for assisting in potentialy unlawful surveilance. This would be a potential way to still monitor at least the voip services that abound on the net. On top of that granting the ability to sniff through or emails and the like. In a number of ways this could provide the means to be even more intrusive then the Fisa amendment. Particularly with a loose definition such as illegal activity. Investigating Money laundering could be plausible enough excuse to see all bank transfers and payments you do over the net. If I have a subscription to some sexually oriented or politicaly oriented online service, I do not care to have anyone else know about it much less the goverment. I realize that much on the internet is free to find and grab information from, but there are somethings that you want to keep between you and those close to you. Buisiness deals, hot tips on the stock market, and ideologically sensitive comments should sometimes be held close to the chest. There is still some anomity on the net. Where we can view and vent some of our true feelings with out fear of back lash or social constraints. Lets keep those simpletons who simply flame, those who troll, and those who speak things to just get a rise out of people under the mask of anomity. it's good stress relief and it just might make you think.
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Disconcerting
by c|net Reader April 23, 2008 1:00 PM PDT
I like the idea of the FBI looking out for my interests in fighting those who try to steal identities, and so on. I don't like the idea of them scanning all Internet traffic they can get their hands on. Obviously, access to Internet traffic is already available to those companies with access to the main pipes, and all of my traffic is available to my ISP, but I'm less comfortable with the idea of the U.S. Government getting into the fray. Certainly some foreign governments, such as China's, already monitor what happens within their purview. Considered in the light of so much existing monitoring, this is hardly new ground, so maybe I'm being too sensitive.
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big brother
by befuddledms April 23, 2008 1:07 PM PDT
"the bureau should have a broad "omnibus" authority to conduct monitoring and surveillance of private-sector networks as well." It already exists. It's called a F****ing Court Order. So much for the the 4th amendment.
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FBI wants widespread monitoring of 'illegal' Internet activity
by RLKrygowski April 23, 2008 1:46 PM PDT
We seem to be taking steps in the direction of fewer freedom and more government oversight and snooping into our lives. When does it end? Why shouldn't our government have to get a warrant to justify their actions like any other state or local authority. Outrageous.
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Cryptography
by Mam00th April 23, 2008 1:48 PM PDT
Suddenly, cryptography and proxy just gained in popularity...
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We are so, so going down the toilet
by cpeterka April 23, 2008 1:49 PM PDT
In order to watch for Illegal Activity, they will have to scan ALL Activity. and with most phones going VOIP, they'll listen to all the phone calls, too. I guess I'll have to arrainge my little extra curricular activites with flags and semiphone. P.S. Nancy, meet me at the Days Inn outside of town.
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hehehe...
by jessiethe3rd April 23, 2008 2:12 PM PDT
And you really thought this WASN'T going to happen?! Com'on now...
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GeorgeOrwell
by oldguytoo April 23, 2008 2:20 PM PDT
1984 Big Brother and all is the new reality. It'll be easier to build a fence around the country, pull all our troops home and end trade - become self sufficient!
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terrible just terrible
by incrediblehelp April 23, 2008 2:36 PM PDT
I cant believe this is going to be allowed, where are our privacy rights? Between this and the fact those Comcast scum are trying to tax the internet it is becoming a sad state of affairs.
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