May 1, 2008 12:42 PM PDT

What the ASCAP music decision means for consumers

There's no mistaking who benefited from a federal-court decision to set licensing fees that three top Web services must pay songwriters and publishers for the right to stream their music.

But the question left unanswered is whether the losers also include consumers.

AOL, RealNetworks, and Yahoo may end up paying the American Society of Composers, Authors, and Publishers (ASCAP) $100 million as a result of a decision by a U.S. district judge to set the licensing fee for streaming music at 2.5 percent of adjusted music-use revenue.

"(The court's decision) is a victory for songwriters, composers, and publishers, and something they have been looking forward to for a long period," said John LoFrumento, ASCAP's chief executive. "In the past, we've settled with (Internet companies) at low rates. We wanted to encourage the growth of these businesses, but these businesses have matured...they have been using our members' music to attract people to their Web sites...it's time to compensate (our members)."

While none of the Web companies involved would comment on the judge's decision, a source close to the three sounded like the players on a baseball team after the other side just hit a walk-off home run.

"This wasn't good for us, to say the least," the source said, adding that the judge's order isn't yet final and that the three companies plan to continue fighting.

If the final fee structure looks anything like what is prescribed in the judge's written opinion, RealNetworks, Yahoo, and AOL would likely have to raise prices. It may also mean that the cost of doing business for anyone streaming music over the Web just went up.

"What this means to other licensees is, they now see what a standard benchmark fee should look like," LoFrumento said. "They now know what to expect from the rate court."

The three Web services had negotiated with ASCAP to obtain a license for unlimited play on the Web of any of the millions of songs in ASCAP's repertory. Following a stalemate, the two sides took their case to a rate court. The court's mission in the case was to determine a fair licensing fee.

The judge considered proposals from both sides. AOL, Yahoo, and RealNetworks wanted a multitiered plan with different rates, depending on the nature of the stream. For example, the three Web services wanted to pay 2.5 percent for on-demand audio, 1.7 percent for Internet radio, and .9 percent for music videos.

ASCAP scoffed at those figures. It said any structure should be set up to charge a percentage of a Web service's net revenue.

When it came to actual dollars, the two sides were worlds apart. Under the formula the Web services proposed, AOL and Yahoo would have paid ASCAP respectively $872,000 and $1.1 million for the year 2006.

Under ASCAP's plan, AOL and Yahoo would have paid $7.8 million and $7.3 million for the same year.

Jonathan Potter of Digital Media Association, a trade organization devoted to companies competing in online audio and video sectors, said the Web services involved absolutely want to fairly compensate songwriters and music publishers.

"We are disappointed, however, that the court ruled that online services' royalties should be based in part on service-wide revenue," Potter said, "(and) not simply on revenue directly attributable to music usage."

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I Hope This Means the Death of Music
by R. U. Sirius May 1, 2008 1:15 PM PDT
I am so sick of the greed of the entertainment industries. I hope their greed causes their rapid extinction.
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BMI effect!
by xmitman May 1, 2008 1:25 PM PDT
I would have liked to know how this ruling might effect BMI, Broadcast Music Inc. and the songs represented by them. Will these companies also have to pay BMI?
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Collapse this model and hit 'refresh'
by Blazer2008 May 1, 2008 2:34 PM PDT
It's all good. Please let this model fly in the face of all and shut this idea down and watch ASCAP sit idle for a while. They will change their tune when a few mortgages flop at the top. The good thing is that bands "members" will support the creation of their very own avenues of distribution over the Net or elsewhere. Stop supporting the bureaucracy of yesterday/today and get on with working for a better tomorrow. We all know - or let this enlighten you, most artists and writers are not living well, due to the fat cats in ASCAP and other institutions who are only leaches, whom pull on true talent like parasites. Okay, enough already. Money is the root to all evil. We do not have to let it destroy our treasures. Determine ways to better a system and flip the giant on it's back.
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Uh no
by RonPaulRules May 1, 2008 3:30 PM PDT
You are wrong, you don't deserve a piece of the overall revenue, because you didn't create everything where revenue came from. You get it yet? You only deserve a piece of the music revenue. BTW this directly affects me.
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Liking music less and less each day
by DaveHartley24 May 1, 2008 3:39 PM PDT
I'm so sick of hearing about the greedy record companies and musicians! In the end its entertainment, nothing necessary. If Musicians want to make money, go play a club, and make a living like everyone else.
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Awesome. Go to H3!! RIAA, MPAA, ASS-CAP
by honorable1 May 1, 2008 7:43 PM PDT
This just continually drives away the artists who, apparently, the companies can't figure out WHO to pay. So? ASCAP (Mafia), RIAA and the MPAA ilk will be left with a declining market because they DO NOT pay the "artists and composers" as they claim. If they can't figure out who listened to what, how are they going to determine who gets what? There is previous testimony by RIAA to attest to this FACT. So, what ends up happening is that the Artists and Composers, whom ASSCAP (Mafia) RIAA and MPAA claim, are owed, get next to nothing compared with what ASSCAP(Mafia) RIAA and MPAA will keep when the judge issues a declaration for damages. SO..... There is a yet unnanmed service coming available that will Guarantee artists and composers a DIRECT profit from their talent. AND...they will join th ebandwagon of independent artists who will negotiate a fair rate for their products and the ASSCAP (mafia) RIAA and MPAA will die a nice death of their own making because they have eloquently revealed their TRUE nature as the Greedy, Self Serving, Slave Masters (i.e Gestapo Racketeers and extortionists) that they are. And everyone will have a TRUE license to listen, translate, morph etc.. music or movies as they see fit on any device or platform they wish without some NAZI Corporate Terrorists to worry about. Now THAT is something to applaud. BYe bye RIAA, MPAA and ASSSSSSCAP. You WILL be eliminated from any concern in this industry going forward. Better save up your cash now while you still can. GREEDY LYING BA$TARD$. YUCK FU. It's coming. it's just still in development.
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Don't lump ASCAP and the RIAA together
by guido d-arezzo May 2, 2008 1:39 AM PDT
ASCAP is a PRO (Performing Rights Organization). It's a non- profit organization that collects money from performances of music and distributes it to composers, songwriters, and their publishers. The songwriter is guaranteed 50% of that money, and may get as much as 100% (if they're self-published). This contrasts with the RIAA, which largely represents the interests of the big four major labels by suing consumers, while the major labels get fat off of money earned off artists' backs through the use of convoluted contracts of epic proportions and inscrutable accounting practices that could probably fry all of the world's existing supercomputers were they to calculate the data.
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If the music industry was a human...
by MadLyb May 2, 2008 2:04 AM PDT
...it would be sitting in the Doctor's office stabbing a knife in it's chest and at the same time telling the Doctor that it doesn't understand why it is having problems breathing. Greed kills.
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How does rate compare to broadcast radio?
by djFLWB May 2, 2008 6:07 AM PDT
So the real question should be, How does the rate compare to Broadcast Radio? Is the playng field comparable across the road? What about satellite radio? What about cable relevision and their mutliple genre-based music channels? Or are the internet based music providers being overly targeted?
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Copyrights Are Out Of Balance
by zanzzz May 3, 2008 8:23 PM PDT
The underlying problem is one that has been steadily worsened by Congress. The increasing length and scope of copyright laws over the years has led to the unbalanced condition of private profit vs. public interest. Originally copyright was for 14 years. Now it is life of author plus 90 years in many cases. Long dead artists are supporting corporations or trusts. The vast majority of the money goes to a handful of large corporations that lobby continuously for more draconian laws and greater extortion of profits that scarcely benefit artists or writers. The public and culture at large has been ill served by the rapacious abuse of copyright laws by "Big Content". Vote for a Congressperson that puts public interest ahead of playing handmaiden for content industries!
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