May 6, 2008 4:00 AM PDT

Washingtonpost.com wants identities of readers who post comments

LOS ANGELES--If Jim Brady had his way, there would be no guaranteed anonymity for those who post comments to Washingtonpost.com.

Brady, executive editor of The Washington Post's online division, said during a panel discussion at the Digital Hollywood conference here that he would like to see a technology that could identify people who violate site standards--and if need be--automatically kick them off for good.

Brady has a notable history with this issue and I'll get to that. First, his position must be made clear. In an interview following the panel discussion, Brady said he doesn't want people's personal information for any other reason but to hold them accountable for what they post. He said he's not--as he has been accused by some--an enemy of free speech. He just wants to oversee a site where readers engage in civil discourse and debate without fear of it degenerating into a "back alley environment."

"I think part of the problem is that people aren't held accountable on the Web," Brady said. "People say things online they would never say when disagreeing with someone at the dinner table. I think heated debate is fine, but when there are (flame wars), many people won't take part for fear they will be attacked and bashed over the head with the (Internet-equivalent) of a steel pipe."

Brady knows how intensely many Internet users disagree with him. He made headlines in January 2006 after shutting down the comments area of a blog where outraged readers gathered to rebuke the Post's ombudsman, Deborah Howell.

Following the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal, Howell erred when she said that the lobbyist gave campaign donations to Democrats as well as Republicans. Abramoff gave only to Republicans. The paper's Web site saw more than 1,000 comments, many from people who accused the Post of conspiring with the Republicans.

Things got worse when Howell posted a clarification. When Brady saw that many of those comments violated the paper's policy against the use of profanity or personal attacks, he blocked users' ability to post. The decision was widely criticized. In defense of his decision, Brady wrote that many of the posts weren't comments at all, but the kind of thing "you might find carved on the door of a public toilet stall."

I reminded Brady that many people feel strongly about their right to privacy online. He responded that he feels strongly about it too, but there are plenty of sites that take an anything-goes approach and that people who want to drop F-bombs and blast each other should go there. "We don't want our site to be sanitized, but we have the right to create a different kind of community," Brady said.

Brady also lamented that closing user accounts doesn't keep bad eggs off a site. They just come back and create new ones. He said that his site can identify someone's IP address, but it's not an elegant solution because blocking them can be tricky. "You don't want to end up blocking the entire Department of Energy or something like that," he said.

Pluck, a company that provides social-networking software, helps maintain some of the Post's blogs and has implemented a "bozo filter," which can isolate comments that include banned words or phrases, according to Brady.

But this isn't a solution. Brady believes that in the next five years people will be required to identify themselves in some way at many sites. "I don't know whether we do it with a credit card number, a driver's license or passport, but I think making people responsible would raise the level of discourse."

Greg Sandoval is a former Washington Post staff writer.

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ID to post? Don't think so
by RobertAPierce May 6, 2008 4:25 AM PDT
Jim Brady is clearly delusional if he thinks anyone is going to be dumb enough to provide (in his words) drivers license or passport information to sites on the internet in order to post comments.
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Too Bad
by pjsauter May 6, 2008 4:49 AM PDT
It's too bad Brady isn't more concerned with making his newspaper, its reporters, and its ombudsman responsible for what they write.
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bugmenot.com for washingpost.com compulsary logins
by basraw May 6, 2008 4:51 AM PDT
bugmenot.com never fails for washingtonpost free online ids.
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Newsroom Kindegarten.
by tremorfireheart May 6, 2008 5:54 AM PDT
It's sounds almost as if they are too afraid to hear peoples true thoughts on the matter. If you want to actively portray what people truely think then you can only let the good in with the bad. Yes there are alot of idiots out there and sometimes those most vehement on a subject matter are those with an iq there own shoe size. Yes they swing about there words phrazes and colorful coloquialisms in a hateful manner, but those phrases are hardly a lead pipe to anyone but those with the most fragile psyche. I think the WashingtonPost may need to grow out of its pristine classroom, stop putting there hands over their mouths going,"ooh you said a dirty word , i'm going to tell," and realize that to definatively represent the world your going to have a lot more back alleys and hole in the wall bars then distant elitist taj mahals. tremorfireheart@yahoo.com
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Journalists use anonymous sources
by foofoofoofoofoo May 6, 2008 6:28 AM PDT
I agree that the identity of people saying or writing comments should be known. I am so tired of journalists in the Washington Post and most other news sources quoting someone and identifying them only as "a source who wishes to remain anonymous because they were not authorized to speak on the record" or "because negotiations are still in process" or some other lame excuse. Unattributed sources are not responsible journalism.
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Big Brother Brady
by john55440 May 6, 2008 6:38 AM PDT
I'm not interested in being part of Big Brother Brady's database.
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Anonymous
by Louis610 May 6, 2008 7:18 AM PDT
Why not create value here? Have a comments section in which only indentified writers can post. Give them an identity, a byline, and segratgate all the unidentified/anonymous posts in another comment thread. The unidentified comments will be awash in ranting and $#&@! It will be a chore to read and usually ignored. Regard the 'identified' posts with replies from the WP writer, and, occasionally, publish the postings in the print edition. Now you have created value to the reader and the poster.
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No Personal Info to Comment
by BZDan May 6, 2008 7:21 AM PDT
I can understand the desire to have some accountability for what people say in their comments online. But, I don't believe in censorship of any kind and I definitely don't believe in being required to give you my personal information so I can post something. You want people's credit card numbers? Their license or passport? Are you nuts!?!
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Uh, folks it's called "Open ID"
by kjam_productions May 6, 2008 7:41 AM PDT
First and foremost, every site has a right to accept comments only from people who choose to identify themselves. Open ID was created for just that reason. It provides a limited amount of information to the site regarding the poster (i.e. email address), without revealing any other details the individual does not wish to convey. Frankly, I don't see this as a free speech issue. The only people upset are the ones that wouldn't have the balls to spew their hate filled garbage in public and then proceed to do so only when they can remain anonymous. Honestly, what site really needs them?
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I prefer the opportunity to chose either anon or identified
by Dr_Zinj May 6, 2008 8:10 AM PDT
TWP's rules are pretty basic: Don't use profanity, don't use ad hominim attacks, don't use inappropriate comments or material, be responsible for what you post. When I adhere to the commonly accepted, logical, and socially acceptable types of postings, I don't have a problem with identifying myself. Truths accepted by society have little risk. When I feel I need to post about something that is socially unaccepted, such as abortion, or euthanasia, I use a pseudonym. If I didn't use a pseudonym, I stand a very real chance of being terminated in my job. Legal protections from government censorship do not protect you from resistance to retailiation in the workplace or social environment. Unfortunately, those social environmental mores are often wrong and MUST be opposed. Otherwise, black would still be slaves in the fields, and women would still be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. The long version of The Washington Post's rules is at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/liveonline/delphi/delphirules.htm
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