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May 16, 2008 11:29 AM PDT

EFF: Signs are NBC triggered block of 'American Gladiator'

Posted by Greg Sandoval
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The Electronic Frontier Foundation has begun investigating why Microsoft Vista Media Centers were blocked from recording two NBC Universal shows Monday night.

The group, which advocates for Internet users, said indications are that NBC sent a "broadcast flag" that triggered the block. But Danny O'Brien, EFF's international outreach coordinator, said the block couldn't have occurred unless hardware and software makers honored the network's request to prevent users from recording the shows. It appears Microsoft may have obeyed NBC Universal's broadcast flag.

NBC Universal and Microsoft said they need time to look into the matter.

The incident began when several dozen users of Vista Media Centers from across the country gathered online at a message board, The Green Button, to complain about being prevented from recording NBC shows American Gladiator and Medium. As they tried to record, a prompt informed them that the copyright holder prohibited recording.

Initially, the problem seemed to affect only users of Vista Media Centers who were recording from digital cable. Since then, there has been a report that a user of a Toshiba-made digital video recorder suffered the problem. In addition, O'Brien said Thursday that he has also interviewed someone who was blocked and was recording over-the-air digital.

O'Brien said he spoke to a Vista user who said he was trying to record Raleigh, N.C.'s HDTV channel WNCN-DT1 when the prompt appeared.

"(He) was attempting to record the program using Silicon Dust's HDHomeRun external tuner," O'Brien said in an e-mail. "(This) decodes the digital TV signal, and sends it over Ethernet to many digital TV receivers, such as MythTV or Windows Media Center. As Silicon Dust says on its Web site, their decoder merely passes on the data stream, and does not interpret the broadcast flag field itself."

O'Brien is concerned that Microsoft could have obeyed the broadcast flag, "despite the successful work of thousands of users to defend Microsoft's right to innovate and our right to fair use."

What he's referring to, of course, was the FCC's attempt to make software and hardware makers obey broadcast flags. The courts overturned the requirement, and now software and hardware makers are free to honor the flag or not.

O'Brien said the EFF is looking into the matter because it believes consumers should know before buying a DVR or recording system like Microsoft's Media Center whether they will help block shows.

Greg Sandoval covers media and digital entertainment for CNET News. He is a former reporter for The Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times. E-mail Greg.
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by planetboom May 16, 2008 12:02 PM PDT
I think the idea we should be more concerned with is why would anyone want to watch American Gladiators?
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by jag0 May 16, 2008 12:10 PM PDT
Why would people want to want reality shows like America's Next Top Model, The Real World, etc.? At least with American Gladiators, the contestants are doing something that is beneficial to them and is highly entertaining to watch (as was the original AG.)
by GhostAlph May 16, 2008 2:06 PM PDT
That's....not the point. Not even close. Doesn't matter what the show is.
by orphu May 16, 2008 2:26 PM PDT
I wholeheartedly agree with you.
by E B May 16, 2008 2:34 PM PDT
Because American Gladiators is the best comedy on television today. Wonderful satire! Absolutely hilarious!

I didn't realize the new season had started -- I bet it's already on my Dish menu waiting for me!
by The_Decider May 16, 2008 5:12 PM PDT
exactly, it is dumbed down crap like this that will lead us to the future depicted in Idiocracy.
by jag0 May 16, 2008 12:08 PM PDT
TiVo FTW! That's pretty shady though...blocking people from recording a show on freely available broadcast TV.
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by muskratboy May 16, 2008 12:25 PM PDT
it's OUR show! OURS! You can't have it! Quit trying to watch OUR shows!

Next we're coming over to your house and breaking all your VCRs.
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by Norseman May 16, 2008 12:49 PM PDT
Amen to that! ;-P
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by EmporerEJ May 16, 2008 12:58 PM PDT
All your base are belong to us.
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by LaserWolf May 16, 2008 1:59 PM PDT
I believe I'm the Toshiba user mentioned in this article. If it's any help to anyone, the DVR used was an RD-KX50. It's a combination DVR and DVD recorder, so I'm not surprised - but I am disappointed - to know that it's infected with DRM technology. I am a little surprised that this hasn't affected more DVR users, though.
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by bobby_brady May 16, 2008 4:01 PM PDT
That's why I haven't "upgraded" to Vista. My XP MCE 2005 will record everthing. I know Vista is filled with DRM.
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by Lerianis May 16, 2008 4:35 PM PDT
Guess again. One of the updates to Media Center in XP MCE put this broadcast flag stuff into it LONG ago.
by georgiarat May 16, 2008 5:08 PM PDT
Microsoft and NBC have had a long partnership. It was money and influence from Microsoft that emboldened NBC to bolt from iTunes for video content. I am sure this is another partnership effort between the two.
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by Groucho6 May 17, 2008 1:25 AM PDT
Three words -- Get a Mac. When are people going to have enough with Macrosloth and their heavy handed tactics?
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by AppleSuxLeo May 17, 2008 3:43 AM PDT
It wasnt blocked by my ATI HDTV Wonder...it was built before the broadcast-flag compliance went into effect. It`s worth it`s weight in GOLD because of this. And it isn`t for sale !
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