March 21, 2008 11:08 AM PDT

Think before you install

Look, people, it's 2008: You're responsible for what you install on your PC.

The outrage is spewing forth over Apple's move to include Safari 3.1 as part of its Software Update program. The new twist is that Windows users who never had installed Safari are now seeing it pop up in Software Update, where they are accustomed to seeing updates for iTunes and Quicktime, and that's not sitting well with many who inadvertently installed the browser.

If you don't want to download Safari for Windows, don't download Safari for Windows.

(Credit: Apple)

Short attention span syndrome strikes again. This practice, of trying to get people to install your software through coy tactics, has been going on for years. All the major IM vendors have tried it at one point or another. Yahoo faced an outrage in 2005 over the fact that its "standard" installation of a Yahoo Instant Messenger application included toolbars and this really obnoxious "live words" thing that directed people to Yahoo Search.

Hell, Sony is actually charging people $50 to prevent software they don't want from being installed on their PCs.

That doesn't mean Apple's move is any less annoying, but it's hardly ground-breaking. And in this case, at least you have options. Apple made Safari 3.1 a standalone update option, so you can choose to uncheck the box next to the title and download just the iTunes updates. The company tells you exactly what you're downloading, and offers a link to its site for more information.

Had Apple bundled Safari with iTunes, the way they bundle Quicktime, I can see where Windows users would have more of a complaint. Being forced to install something you don't want just to get updates for something you do want is not cool. You can download standalone versions of QuickTime or iTunes on Apple's site, but sometimes they appear bundled in Software Update and people don't realize they have other options.

But that's not what's happening with Safari. If you don't want Safari, don't click "install."

It seems that at some point people became conditioned to downloading anything that shows up from an official source, like Microsoft, Apple, AOL, Yahoo, or whoever. Remember, it's your PC; spend your installation capital wisely.

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Great now Apple is acting like Microsoft
by russkeller March 21, 2008 11:26 AM PDT
Well... So much for the competing with Microsoft now there are got two of them.
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please respect the users
by amigabill March 21, 2008 11:50 AM PDT
I heard about this from a friend at work earlier today. He says he keeps telling things NOT to auto-install or auto-update, but that this choice is reset every time iTunes updates. It's one thing to say "just don't install", it's quite another to keep resetting the choice someone has already made to something different than that. I haven't checked my own PC recently, and if iTunes wants to install Safari on my PC next time I do I will be pretty annoyed. I don't want it. I don't even use it on my Mac for crying out loud. I never installed Safari on my PC before, I should never have to actively say NO to it every time I use an unrelated music program. It should just never happen until I specifically make the effort to make it happen. That's why it's irritating, and just saying "don't install it then" is not an acceptable solution to people who find it irritating. I certainly do not find it acceptable. If the "customers" don't like it, don't tell us we're wrong to not like it.
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Its "Just Plain 'Ol Business" people!
by kaamulan March 21, 2008 12:06 PM PDT
Microsoft has been good at this... remember Netscape (R.I.P.)? It's Just Plain 'Ol Business people...Just Plain 'Ol Business!
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I hate forced installs
by nachurboy March 21, 2008 12:06 PM PDT
Tom, the problem isn't that there's a checkbox to not install Safari if you don't want it. The problem is the same problem as spam mailing lists. It SHOULD NOT be an opt-out option. It should be an opt-in option. By putting the check there to install it means they're going to assume you want it, rather than assume you don't want it, which is why it's invasive. Wouldn't you rather opt-in to mailing lists rather than making you opt-out? That option is there if you want to "take control" of your incoming information. The point is, if I didn't ask for it, don't assume I want it.
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Heh..
by gsekse March 21, 2008 12:23 PM PDT
Another reason why I stick to Linux. It's not perfect, but nobody is trying to ram software into my system. Course, the real problem is that your first reaction to "update" or "install" should be NO until you really want something from it. I have been saying NO to MS's software validator update since the first time it asked.
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Install to PS Menu USB
by cohaver March 21, 2008 12:33 PM PDT
Why install anything to a hard drive just use PS Menu USB install and path it to a USB plug in and plug out Task Manager don't care as long as it path and got a start menu Directory runs from s USB
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duhh!!
by webish March 21, 2008 2:00 PM PDT
i agree!! when are users going to take responsibility for their own actions? We are turning into babies, when it comes to the internet.
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Apple could have avoided all the complaints by have default to OFF
by johnqh March 21, 2008 3:18 PM PDT
List it as "recommended software", and have the checkbox off so it is opt-in. They probably get as many downloads as the opt-out, without all the complaints.
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It's common practice, going on forever from all vendors
by technewsjunkie March 21, 2008 3:39 PM PDT
I'm shocked, SHOCKED! You mean there is gambling going on in the Parlor! Shocking!
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Kodak Easyshare 6.4
by DADSGETNDOWN March 21, 2008 4:59 PM PDT
Kodak Easyshare 6.4 Installs Quicktime, with NO notice and no way to get to an advanced (choice menu) install. Yes the Camera I installed it for ofcourse the movies use quicktime, but who's to say I need quick time ? I use Quintessential with Quicktime Alternative. and portable apps, VLC and such. And do great with out QUICKTIME. AND MY GOD, before and after you install Easyshare check you ADD/REMOVE LIST Kodak alone installs like 15 to 20 things.
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