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October 16, 2008 1:05 PM PDT

Relief for users with new iPods and older cars

Posted by Eric Franklin
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(Credit: Scosche)

So, you just bought a new car that came with a built-in iPod cable. Great, right? Well, maybe not. Unfortunately, the cable is only compatible with the previous generation of iPod products and not your brand new iPhone 3G, Nano 4G, or Touch 2G.

A bummer? Yes. However, Scosche is on this like an Apple fanboy is on Steve Jobs' every word. Or close to that, at least.

On Thursday, Scosche announced the Passport, which is now on sale at Apple stores, although I was unable to find it at Apple's online store at press time.

The Passport utilizes a female pass-through connector, which--purportedly--will attach to any in-car iPod-integration system to charge all iPhone and iPod models, including the iPhone 3G and the recently introduced Nano 4G and Touch 2G.

According to Scosche, prior to the Passport, many car owners could not get these integrated systems to work with the new products; now they don't have to buy a new car to do so.

I've found a few people who have experienced this problem with their built-in car adapters. My guess is that these are adapters hard-wired into the car that cannot be replaced and there is some kind of voltage incompatibility that prevents them from working. If that is the case, the Passport could be a fix.

Update: The guys are Scosche let me in on exactly why connecting your new iPhone or iPod to a car system might be a problem: "The reason that the iPhone is compatible with your computer cable is because it plugs into a USB port that operates on 5V. When you directly connect one of the newer iPod or iPhone models (iPhone 3G, iPod nano 4th Gen, iPod touch 2nd Gen) to an existing car system they will play but not charge. This is because most car integration units operate on the older "Firewire" voltage (12V). The Passport converts the 12V to the new 5V "USB" standard. It does not have to do with switching the pins, just converting the voltage"

The Passport retails for $29.99.

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by alenas October 16, 2008 2:00 PM PDT
Apple are idiots. iPhone 3G should work with iPod equipment without any adapters. I have Sony iPod adapter in my car - and iPhone would refuse to charge - that is clearly annoying - cause adapter is with "Made for iPod" logo. Apple is getting more and more controlling - Apple hardware is attracting customers - but Apple mentality is killing all the warmth...
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by boeingmd82 October 17, 2008 12:30 PM PDT
Hmmm, I think I would put more blame on the car adapter people than Apple. I would bet that most iPod users are Windows users, how do most Windows users sync their iPods? Well since the iPod Mini in 2004, I would bet USB. So why didn't the adapter manufacturers use USB charging? Because they didn't want to convert the voltage so it would be easier and cheaper to make the adapters. As soon as Apple started supporting USB on their iPods you could pretty much see the writing on the wall that Firewire support on iPod was going the way of the dinos. So, when the iPod started really selling like crazy, they were all pretty much supporting USB, but the adapter manufacturers still chose to use Firewire charging. I'm just surprised that it took Apple so long to drop support.
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by ghostofziva October 17, 2008 9:13 PM PDT
alenas - YOU are an idiot. Your english stinks. Apple are idiots? WTF do you mean here? Apples are idiots? Apples don't even have a conscience. What is clearly annoying is when people speak/write manglish (mangled english). Time for you to take English 1A and 1B. Sheesh......
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by neverdown October 18, 2008 4:10 PM PDT
ghostofziva... you're a moron... only morons attack someone's grammar/spelling on web forums.

By the way, you forgot to capitalize the "E" in your first use of English.
by alenas October 20, 2008 5:28 PM PDT
English is my 4th language - but I guess you know only 1? Right?
Apple is group of people - and group of people are idiots (including you ;)
by chupacabre October 18, 2008 11:13 AM PDT
Really ghostofziva? AppleS don't even have A CONSCIENCE? try apples don't even have consciences. Time for you to take English 1A and 1B. Sheesh......
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by someguy7234 October 18, 2008 11:17 AM PDT
I'm not sure why there is so much animosity between apple and non apple users. While I tend to agree with md82, that it is absurd for apple to continue to support "firewire" I'm not sure that I understand the argument that the voltage step is the issue. The last time I opened up a car stereo deck, there was a 5V post (on an OEM ford deck).

As a former sansa, and now a zune user (if I hadn't gotten a deal on the zune I would have bought an iPod, but I'm pleased with the zune since the last update) I don't understand why a major deck manufacturer doesn't push a standard USB based interface (call it plugs for sure). You already see some decks taking USB flash drives, and I understand that without a full USB stack you cannot accommodate every device and every functionality in the world- but would it really be that hard for DMP manufacturers to agree on a audio/control interface accessible via USB?

I think that after this economic dry-spell, demands for in car media, GPS, digital radio, legislation requiring hands-free, and on demand information will push things like that Microsoft Sync technology into all cars, and once you have full blown x86 computers (think Atom in your dash) we will see just USB 3.0 plugs.
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by DMBoricua October 19, 2008 4:40 PM PDT
I bought the iPod Nano 4g 8GB, replacing my old iPod Nano 2G 2GB. I was so excited to get this new iPod nano, I've been looking at it ever since it came out. Now that I have it, I like the fact that I have a lot of space to put my whole music library and some videos, but thats it. Battery life, horrible. Accelerometer, cool, but very, VERY annoying, and not useful. Cover Flow, EXTREMELY annoying, and it cannot be taken off. I cant get use to the fact that you have to tilt the ipod to view your videos. I can no longer use this new iPod on my Mazda CX-7 car which has an iPod adapter w/ Bose sound system since the new iPod nano lost compatibility with 3rd party accessories. I'm planning on returning this iPod nano and get the iPod Nano 3G 8GB.
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by alenas October 20, 2008 5:32 PM PDT
It is nothing to do with USB or Firewire...Apple "certified for iPod" program required that accessories would have that 12 volt voltage (to support older iPods). So manufacturers had to use 12 volts and now Apple changed their mind to 5 volts...
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