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AVCHD video: The hardware is willing, but the software is weak

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After 20 years in the biz, I've lost count of how many times I've heard, "The software hasn't caught up with the hardware." Usually, however, it simply means you have to wait a bit before recognizing the speed benefits of your expensive 64-bit, dual-core system, or find games that show off the long-shader support in your graphics card. With camcorders, however, it means you can't use your video.

Personally, I don't consider a camcorder as mainstream if you have to search the Web and troll forums to find software to play or edit your video. The highly lame software that comes bundled with these models doesn't count. That's where we stand with AVCHD, even eight 10 months after the first models hit the market.

I just reviewed the Sony Handycam HDR-SR7, a very nice HD camcorder hamstrung by lack of software support. What surprised me was that the situation hasn't changed much since late last year when I reviewed its equally promising predecessor, the SR1. Now, as then, the only thing you can easily do with the video is play it on an HDTV, direct from the camcorder. Neither Microsoft Windows Media Player nor Apple QuickTime as yet offer decoders--a reader below claims he plays files in QT, but I think he's confusing the H.264 codec with the AVCHD format, because as far as I can tell, neither QT nor QT Pro recognize the format. That means you can't simply play the files on a computer, much less send them to your friends, without down-converting to SD (which defeats the purpose of spending the extra $500 or so for an HD camcorder). After a few days of retracing the Web tracks I made last year, I decided to share the current state of AVCHD support with all you potential buyers.

Updated 8/9/07: Adding to the confusion, the Canon HG10, which we've just reviewed (and admittedly isn't shipping until mid-fall), can record 1,440x1,080/24p video. It's likely that most of the software won't support that mode in the first go-round. The camcorder will be bundled with an as-yet unconfirmed set of Corel applications. My guess is VideoStudio 11, which doesn't yet support the 24fps files.

Updated 10/24/07: I've never been a big fan of DVD-based camcorders, but mixing them with AVCHD seems to be one of the worst ideas evah. You just end up with the worst of two worlds: slow, unstable (for real-time recording, at least) low-capacity media combined with a confusing, low-compatibility encoding format. Can you tell I've just completed my testing of the Canon HR10? The HR10 ships with four Corel applications: InterVideo WinDVD SE for playback; Ulead DVD Movie Factory SE, for importing and transcoding AVCHD files into other formats; DVD Movie Writer SE, for burning DVDs; and GuideMenu, which seems to function much like Sony's MediaCheck tool, sitting in your system tray watching for AVCHD files to appear in your file system. For what it's worth, the way Movie Factory handles AVCHD files is--unsurprisingly--just as annoying as VideoStudio 11's.

I also ran into an as-yet unsolved mystery: Windows XP on my system could not properly read the AVCHD disc (Windows Explorer reports zero objects), while our lab tech had no problem whatsoever on his system. On my PC, the bundled software applications read the disc, but nothing else could. Of course, an afternoon of googling yielded no useful information about my Lite-On DH16A1L, which could be a culprit. Suggestions welcome.

Updated 10/25/07: Rabw mentions Elecard Converter Studio AVC HD Edition ($75; free trial) below as a potential solution. I purposefully haven't discussed transcoders--software that converts files from one encoding format to another--for a couple of reasons. First, I believe that any file format that requires manual transcoding before you use it is not transparent enough to be an adequate consumer solution. It's true that all video-editing software transcodes video into an intermediate format, but it does so on the fly without user intervention. Second, once you start discussing transcoding software you inevitably must address the quality of the encodings, which I so don't have time to test. You guys are free to post comments with your experiences, however.

After a couple of pain-free AVCHD experiences--notably, footage shot with the new Canon Vixia HF10 and repeat visits to clips from the Sony Handycam SR7--I was beginning to mellow, and even predicted that 2008 would be the year that AVCHD was finally ready for the mass market. Then I began my attempts to open 1,920x1080 videos shot with the Panasonic HDC-SD9. In short, every application I and our Labs' tester tried--iMovie, Pinnacle Studio, Ulead Video Studio, Sony Vegas and Avid Liquid--at best could open but barely play some clips, and more often simply hung or crashed. Panasonic's tech support wanted me to use HD Writer, the horrible home-grown application Panasonic ships with the camcorder. I finally got InterVideo WinDVD to consistently play clips, albeit not very smoothly. Updated 4/2/08: Per drj444's comments, I revisited VideoStudio and realized I hadn't upgraded to 11.5. I did and tried again. The clips came in okay, but the software crashed soon after I'd imported them. Sigh. Updated 5/2/08: Tried again and it seems to work now. This also ties in with my theory that many technical problems will simply go away if you leave them alone for a while. In any case, if you're looking to edit SD9 files, it looks like Ulead VideoStudio is your software. ArcSoft's TotalMedia also provides very nice playback.

Updated 5/2/08: As if AVCHD camcorders aren't problem enough, along comes the Casio Exilim Pro EX-F1 sort-of-hybrid still/video camera to bring all sorts of unwanted software excitement to my life. I haven't had a chance to take it out into the world yet--I've been spending hours trying to figure out what applications can properly handle its FHD 1080i and 1080p files (the 720p clips seem to be okay in software that supports QuickTime files). Complicating matters, the Casio uses the QuickTime MOV extension rather than the more "standard" MTS extension used by Canon, Panasonic and Sony. Ultimately, after much trial and error, I figured out that only the bundled software, ArcSoft TotalMedia Extreme and TotalMedia Theater (see below) can play the files. The kicker? No editing capability. You can't even transcode the videos to edit them in something else. I called Casio tech support and a rep told me that they don't know anything about third-party software, and actually suggested that I go to my local electronics retailer and ask them for advice. After the laughter died down, I did some poking around on ArcSoft's site and saw that the retail version of TotalMedia Extreme includes the Studio editing software. But it doesn't seem to be in the trial version I downloaded. I'm trying to find out how to get it, so stay tuned. Updated 5/6/08: I've heard back from ArcSoft and as far as I can tell, Studio isn't real editing software anyway, just disc authoring. So scratch that as a potential editing solution.

Also, one note for those of you complaining in the comments about the Pixela software bundled with the Canon HF models: stop trying to use it and spring for some real software, such as anything mentioned here. This is one occasion where spending a little money beats sticking your head into a wood chipper, which is what it feels like to use bad software.

Playback:

  • Updated 5/14/08: ArcSoft TotalMedia Theater (BD/HD DVD). $89.99; 15-day trial download. Requires entire file structure to play back from folders, though drag and drop works for individual files.
  • Updated 3/13/08:  Nero 8 Ultra Edition Enhanced 8 (with ShowTime 4). $80; there's a 15-day trial download, but AVCHD support requires the full licensed version.
  • Updated 5/6/08: CyberLink PowerDVD 8 Ultra. $99.95; no trial download.
  • Updated 5/14/08:  Corel WinDVD 9 Plus. $79.99; trial download does support AVCHD files, but only by dragging and dropping them onto the player. According to a Corel rep: "'open from folder' functionality is for DVD folders only. There is no definition of an AVCHD folder in the AVCHD spec. AVCHD folders have the exact same structure as BDMV folders so, for security concerns expressed by the Blu-ray Disc Association, Corel WinDVD 9 Plus Blu-ray does not support AVCHD or BDMV folder playback." (emphasis mine). This is odd, since other products will read from the BDMV folders.

Editing:

  • Added 5/6/08: CyberLink PowerDirector 7 Ultra. $119.95; no trial download.
  • Added 11/15/07: Final Cut Express 4. $199; no trial download. For Intel-based Macs only. As far as I can tell, there's no list of supported models, which bodes well in my mind. Notably, FCE4 can mix HD and SD video on a single timeline, just like its very expensive big brother.
  • Updated 5/14/08: Sony Vegas Video Movie Studio Platinum Edition. $129.95; 30-day trial download. As of Version 8.0c, Vegas Platinum supports Panasonic and Canon files. I opened a few files to check. Woo hoo! According to the release notes for Version 8.0d, it now supports 1,920x1,080 files, but not for Panasonic.
  • Updated 6/6/08: Pinnacle Studio Plus 12. $100; no trial download available.
  • Final Cut Pro 6. $1,299 (part of Final Cut Studio 2); no trial download available, and AVCHD editing requires a Mac Pro with Intel Xeon CPU.
  • Updated 4/2/2008: Corel Ulead VideoStudio 11.5. $99.99; The current version of VideoStudio now lets you import AVCHD files--it no longer requires the entire directory structure--and author AVCHD discs.
  • Apple iMovie '08. Apple only supports a few of AVCHD camcorders, however, and even those have a couple of caveats. Here's the current list of supported models.

Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 and Premiere Elements 4 don't yet support AVCHD editing.

Senior Editor Lori Grunin has been covering digital imaging for two decades, but her memory's kind of sketchy on the details. You can hear about it every week on Indecent Exposure, the podcast she co-hosts with Matt Fitzgerald.
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fina cut pro now does AVCHD
by smokeonit July 19, 2007 1:53 PM PDT
final cut pro now does import AVCHD... it converts it to it's own intermediate
ProRes codec.
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Sony Vegas
by SlurmSlurper July 20, 2007 1:52 AM PDT
It should be noted that the current version of Sony Vegas only supports AVCHD for Sony camcorders (the profiteering !#%!@%!#) apparently stating that the AVCHD in their competitors is different to their AVCHD. I'm glad we have standards so that this kind of thing does not happen, oh wait a minute...!
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SONY did a rush job with many loose ends
by emil serban July 20, 2007 7:46 AM PDT
I bought my HDR SR1 right off the bat... as soon as it became available (October, 2007) mainly because it's future proof: tape or dvd is soooo yesterday. I was surprised however, to see that I cannot play the file on the PC - no matter how powerfull - totally unacceptable... None of the s/w currently available, including Sony's own Vegas released this month can play the avchd files... almost a year later... unbelievable for a $1400 camera.
It very much looks like the decoding should be done on a dedicated chip as with current mpeg2 chips. The alternative is to have one or two of the multi-core processors working on decoding alone - but the s/w maker has to colaborate with AMD and/or Intel to get it done efficiently. It's a shame that a good ideea had such a poor implementation.
And another thing for those who would consider such camera: image quality is truly amazing but the image stabilization is very, very poor. You need to be very carefull when shooting and especially when you zoom in... it only amplifies the shaking problem.
It very much looks like Sony rushed this format on the market to help on the Blue Ray front. All BR players play AVCHD which will rule out HDDVD for AVCHD camera owners as an unjustified expense.
Thanks CRAVE for bringing this up!
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APPLE ILife 08
by Viv Collins August 9, 2007 6:21 PM PDT
Uh? did Apple not say part of ILife 08 would handle AVCHD

Yesterday?
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Converter AVC HD Edition
by pascalmax August 23, 2007 4:25 PM PDT
This software is supposed to work: (never tried it)
http://www.elecard.com/products/products-pc/consumer/converter-studio-avchd/

More info on AVCHD:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264

http://www.avchd-info.org/

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/forumdisplay.php?f=133&page=3&order=desc
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A solution?
by rabw October 24, 2007 7:47 PM PDT
Is not the Elecard Converter Studio AVC HD Edition a suitable solution? I haven't tried it (I am planning to buy a Sony SR7) but I understand it converts AVCHD from the SR range and others (they provide a list of compatible camcorders) such that one can then edit using most popular software packages.

Incidentally, does anyone know if there is significant loss of quality in such a conversion and whether any particular converted format would be best to use with Muvee Autoproducer 6?

Thanks all,

rabw
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Here's my experience.
by Darth-Mike October 24, 2007 9:26 PM PDT
Hello, this is my first comment here. My congratulations to the crave team since I think this blog amazing.

I recently bought a Sony HDR-CX7. The format is extremely convenient. The software included with the camera (sony) is stable on my computer. It lets me backup everything to standard dvds without any quality loss (this can only be seen in computers as It is hd video), It also allows me to do some simple cutting to the clips.

For a little more advanced editing I use iMovie 08. It works like a charm. The only concern is that sometimes in fast moving sequences some frames are lost due to apple's deinterlacing in Its codec (I think this can be resolved in a future update) this sometimes creates the illusion of 24p filming but of course sometimes this effect doesnt look good. You can look at a test of what I did here and judge for yourselves: (http://www.vimeo.com/348156)
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Agree with this view 110%
by pofarrell October 25, 2007 4:43 PM PDT
This article is very timely. Just look at the state of Adobe PE 4.0. This package is just out, about all of 3 weeks ago, and with NO AVCHD support.
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I agree about transcoding
by Pixelstuff October 29, 2007 4:54 PM PDT
I agree with your transcoding theory. It shouldn't really be considered. Transcoding makes the process like tape transfers. Kind of defeats the benefits of AVCHD when you can't just drop the files on the computer.
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AVCHD Software - What really works?
by lookoutmama November 1, 2007 6:41 AM PDT
I have a Sony HDR-SR1 I purchased 1 year ago and I have not been able to take advantage of the AVCHD file format.

Is there anyone out there that has successfully been able to edit AVCHD with any software? I read reviews and comments that say "It Can" - but what is the real world experience?

If I knew that I couldn't edit this format when I purchased the camera I would have purchased something else until this technology had matured. Appreciate any suggestions or comments on what really works in real life then theory
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by pierrebarberis July 1, 2008 10:27 AM PDT
To dAY,imho, THE BEST PATH IS TO CONVERT avchd INTO hdv ( GOOD OLD mpeg@ hd) AND USE any OF THE AVAILABLE NLEs. How to convert ?
My pick is to use TMPGEncExpress, works superb.
I've Tried All The Software Options
by HDWannabe November 8, 2007 1:42 PM PST
I have the Sony HDR-CX7 Memory Stick camcorder. I thought this was the camera I was waiting for for all these years. And the camera itself is great, the software to edit it is terrible. Being an earlier adopter of things, this is a case that I wish I would have waited a bit, but I have a 3 year old and a 1 year old, and I didn?t want to record those moments on a crappy tape.

My experiances:

The Hardware
I have 2 Vista PC?s, one Dell XPS 410 with 4GB, PC 6400 of ram 2.6 core2 duo, 7200 rpm sata drives, and a GeForce 7950 gx2 card with 1gb of video ram. And one more consumer grade HP with a 2.4 core2 and 2gb of ram and a 7600le card with 256mb of vram. I also have a brand new MacBook Pro.

I preface with my equipment because I have very different experiences on each machine.

The Software I own, Nero 7 ultra, Pinnacle Studio 11 ultimate, Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5, iMovie ?08

The camera comes with a decent conversion/download program that takes your HD clips from the camera and converts them into a file with a *.m2ts. Which I thing means MPEG-2 Transport Stream. That confuses me because I thought that AVCHD was a h.264 varient with a MPG-4 container. Anyway, these are saved to the hard drive on a folder. You can play them back, in non-HD resolution, on your computer within the included Sony software, or play them back in their full HD glory in Nero Showtime.

They only play back on the fast Dell computer, the slower HP won?t play them at all, and the Mac doesn?t recognize .m2ts files at all.

Editing

I first tried Sony Vegas, after a crash-a-thon, and the worst UI, I have ever seen, I gave up on that one before the trial ended.

I then tried Nero Vison, which was supposed to be able to edit these files, it does open them, however when I tried to export the finished movie to any other format, such as mp4 avc, or dvd, the video appears very choppy.

I then tried the transcoding route with my Premiere Pro and the HDV plugin, crash, crash and more crash. Skip that one.

The latest thing I tried was going to the store and purchased the Pinnacle Studio 11. This is the single worst software program I have ever encountered. Everything is difficult about it, starting with the installation and registration, I had to enter in 5 different serial numbers at different times, to ?unlock? all the features. The interface is junk, with no concept of project files at all except for the worlds slowest file browser. You need to move all the files you are going to edit to a directory and then browse to that directory in Pinnacle, you can?t edit the clips until you add them to your timeline. I found it difficult to edit the clips at all, on my machine, which isn?t slow I don?t think, Scrubing was a frustrating joke and trying to set a in out point anywhere near where I wanted it was impossible. Exporting the file to a HDDVD or a file crashes more times than it works, and it takes an unbelievably long time to transcode, 8 - 10 hours for Windows Media. Couple with the fact that the interface is terrible, I strongly discourage anyone from wasting their money on this product.

The only thing that works is iMovie 08. There are 2 big problems with this: 1. Remember those .m2ts files, well they don?t work here, you have to export those back to your memory card from the PC-only Sony software and then reimport them into imovie like you are doing a DV capture. It takes a very long time and is a pain to do this, versus the seconds it takes to download the .m2ts files on the pc. Problem 2. The Dolby Digital 5.1 track is downmixed into a 2 channel aac which I think sounds like crap. It also doesn?t have a native resolution import profile 1080i so I am losing some of the data unless I choose to import it in 1080p.

If you can get past the two problems and don?t mind the crazy new interface and the buggy software, imovie actually does work.

I have literally spent way too much time on this and I really wish I wouldn?t have. I would wait a bit before investing in this type of camcorder if I had to do it over again, as I can?t recommend a single solution for editing these files.
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ULead Video Studio 11
by krazii1991 November 8, 2007 2:11 PM PST
Has anyone tried Ulead Video Studio 11? It has always been kind of a generic fix all for me, but I just purchased a AVCHD Camcorder and am looking for software to edit the videos with. I bought a panasonic hdc-sd5, any suggestions on software?
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avchd software
by drdestructo1 November 19, 2007 1:51 PM PST
i recently dl'd ulead vs 11. it works BUT you have to import video directly from the camera. so, i can't import video that i already have on the sony software that came with the camera. i might try the sony casino wahtever software. if you come up with anything, let me know. thanks. mike
Quicktime can play AVCHD
by mpitogo November 15, 2007 11:26 AM PST
I've been watching 1080i movies captured by a Sony camera and I think the
software seems to be fine. The movies are watchable in both quicktime and
FCS2. High Profile H.264, I've also read somewhere the new handbrake also
supports it.
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avchd support group
by drdestructo1 November 19, 2007 2:06 PM PST
i'm sure i'm not the only one regretting he bought a avchd camcorder. i've had mine for about 7 months and have not solved the problem of GOOD EDITING SOFTWARE. the ulead 11 did import the files from the camera, but not from the sony file of existing videos. it didn't recognize them so, i guess they're useless.
i'm wondering if anyone has had any success with the sony casino software. i really like the camera and i want to take advantage of the HD. i think "converting" the files into anything else would reduce the quality... right?
HELP!
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i meant sony vegas software
by drdestructo1 November 19, 2007 2:15 PM PST
Adobe Premiere Elements 4
by furgle November 23, 2007 2:56 AM PST
I am shopping and looking at the HD cameras, including the Sony HDR-SR7. I am very interested in the HDD based cams. I have recently purchased, but not yet installed a new version of Adobe Premiere Elements 4. I thought the following might be of interest:

In the manual:
"Use project presets for reverse field order. New presets for hard-drive-based or Flash-memory-based camcorders (such as the Sony HDR SR100) that you can access from the New Project Setup Dialog Box let you quickly and easily set up a project for video coming from nontape camcorders or other devices that produce video with reverse field order."

Also, Adobe has a PDF downloadable datasheet that says this software supports the import/export of the following formats: "MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4, H.264, DV, AVI WINDOWS MEDIA, QUICKTIME, JVC EVERIO MOD (import only), Dolby Digital Stereo, PSD (import only), JPEG, PNG (import only), DVD, Blu-ray Disc (export only). Import/export of some formats, including DVD, Blu-ray, MPEG2, MPEG-4, H.264 and Dolby Digital Stereo may require activation via the Internet. Import/export of .3GP, .GP2, and .MPEG4 requires QuickTime Software."

Has anyone tried this software with the Sony?
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sony hdr-sr7 and imovie '08 on imac
by dentipede December 4, 2007 2:43 PM PST
Sony states that mac computers will not support hard-drive camcorders and
Apple states that this model IS supported on their intel-based computers. I
would love to purchase this or another hard-drive based camcorder but I am
afraid of the compatibility issues. Has anyone used this camcorder with a mac,
and if so, were there any issues? Please help me figure out who is right. You
would think that Sony would be, but Apple assures me that they are??????
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I have a Sony HDR-SR7 and iMovie '08
by morleyds January 19, 2008 6:17 PM PST
I have a Sony HDR-SR7 and iMovie '08 (running on an iMac) and it all works fine together. iMovie does't edit the AVCHD natively, instead it has to "capture" it and convert it to another format. You do get an option to import your videos is high quality or standard quality.

I've only made a few football highlight movies to stick on YouTube so I can't comment on the quality of movies burned to DVD.

I use both a mac and pc at home. When I first got the camera I installed the Sony software on my PC. It sucked as expected. It installed about 8 icons on my desktop and just looked like total crap-ware, so I moved over to my new iMac. Within a few minutes I was capturing movies.

One serious word of caution/disappointment. The dock that comes with the camera is the ONLY way to capture video digitally. Without it you're hosed. There's no USB or Firewire on the dang camera!! Major bummer.

I paid $1100 for this camera from Amazon. It was an upgrade for me from my old TRV-30 that recorded on MiniDV tapes. While I am pretty pissed at Sony for this allowing me to purchase something that's so poorly supported, I am very excited at the ability to record in 16x9 and on a hard drive. No more queuing up tape!!

I'm just hoping and praying for more industry support for this dang format.
Software that i have used (Sony HDR-SR1)
by marscable January 14, 2008 5:27 PM PST
i have this camcorder when it first came out on Oct 2006 and it didn't really disappoint me hardware wise but software is a different story as you all know..

The app that came with this is only good to transfer the files from your camcorder to your pc the encoding to mpeg2 (dvd) is horrible for a lack of a better/worst word to say. ;)

I've first used TMPGEnc Express 4.0 i think the very first software to accept .m2ts files. It's no video editing by no means but it's better that 'literally' nothing. Then Sony came out with a patch for its Sony Vegas 7 which is the 7.0e which right now im currently using. If you don't know how to use it go to 'youtube' there's a lot of tutorials there that will get you started then after that it's just a matter of getting use to it. It's a pretty straight forward app if you get the hang of it.

I've tried Ulead VideoStudio and Pinnacle Studio i don't like there interfaces it feels like 'unprofessional'. Or maybe its just me.. :)
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I have a Sony HDR-SR7 and iMovie '08...
by morleyds January 19, 2008 6:25 PM PST
I have a Sony HDR-SR7 and iMovie '08 (running on an iMac) and it all works fine together. iMovie does't edit the AVCHD natively, instead it has to "capture" it and convert it to another format. You do get an option to import your videos is high quality or standard quality.

I've only made a few football highlight movies to stick on YouTube so I can't comment on the quality of movies burned to DVD.

I use both a mac and pc at home. When I first got the camera I installed the Sony software on my PC. It sucked as expected. It installed about 8 icons on my desktop and just looked like total crap-ware, so I moved over to my new iMac. Within a few minutes I was capturing movies.

One serious word of caution/disappointment. The dock that comes with the camera is the ONLY way to capture video digitally. Without it you're hosed. There's no USB or Firewire on the dang camera!! Major bummer.

I paid $1100 for this camera from Amazon. It was an upgrade for me from my old TRV-30 that recorded on MiniDV tapes. While I am pretty pissed at Sony for this allowing me to purchase something that's so poorly supported, I am very excited at the ability to record in 16x9 and on a hard drive. No more queuing up tape!!

I'm just hoping and praying for more industry support for this dang format.
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Panasonic HDC-SD7 and my new iMac
by chainstrainer February 3, 2008 5:22 PM PST
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Panasonic HDC-SD7 and iMac - it just works
by chainstrainer February 3, 2008 5:28 PM PST
I have very modest editing needs. My SD7 clips work fine for me just using
iMovie. Should I worry about H.264 or AVCHD or whatever - I mean the SD7
captures look good to me both on my Mac and the HDTV.
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