Dell exec: We're not Wintel's lapdog

BOSTON--To some, Dell marches to the beat of Intel and Microsoft drums, dutifully following their research and development plans. But to hear Kevin Kettler tell it, the PC maker often takes its own lead.

Not only is the company active in establishing technologies, but often it's the kingmaker for emerging standards, Dell's chief technology officer said. In an interview at LinuxWorld Conference and Expo here, Kettler outlined several areas where Dell has gone its own way--over objections from Intel and Microsoft--and has cut behind-the-scenes deals that brought new developments to market.

Essentially, Kettler argued, Dell was responsible for selecting, if not necessarily developing, many of the technologies in today's desktop computers and servers. Among standards for which he said Dell deserves credit are 802.11 wireless networking, PCI Express communications technology and 64-bit extensions to Intel's x86 line of processors.

Dell's assertiveness has led to friction at times between the company and its major allies, however. Just last Monday, Kettler spent eight hours in a meeting with Intel. It was productive, but it "wasn't pretty," he said.

In the past, Microsoft and Intel had more power, said Roger Kay, an analyst at Endpoint Technology Associates. There were few alternatives when PC companies wanted to buy chips or operating systems, and not many computer makers were dominant enough to set terms. But now, with major consolidation in the number of PC sellers as well, there are more power struggles, he said.

"Some very large players--Cisco in networking, Microsoft in operating systems, Intel in chips, Dell in PCs, Best Buy in distribution--they're all jockeying for a dominant position, bluffing, feinting," Kay said. And overall, Dell does indeed hold more power than the past. "It's a little braggadocio, but I think essentially the story holds," he added.

But overall, Dell tends to follow Intel's lead and isn't setting the agenda, said Gartner analyst Steve Kleynhans. "They tend to get involved at the point where technology is getting standardized, and they popularize it. They get it out to a lot of people," he said. "But I don't see them as being the driver of a technology or the one that sets the direction."

Dell's duels
In the case of wireless networking, Dell pushed back against Intel's fondness for the now-defunct HomeRF standard, Kettler said. It did so strongly enough to convince the company to switch its support to the 802.11 standard that is widely used today.

Intel saw HomeRF as inexpensive and good for the home. Dell, however, wanted a single technology for work and home, so customers wouldn't have to switch network adapters when they carried their laptops back and forth, Kettler said. Dell convinced Intel to go with 802.11 everywhere, but to price it at the same level as the cheap HomeRF alternative. It argued that Intel would make more money from selling a large number of 802.11 adapters with a slimmer profit margin than from selling smaller amounts of a more expensive adapter geared to work environments.

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It was, therefore, Dell's actions that dramatically reduced the cost of 802.11 networking gear, he argued.

Intel declined to comment on specific situations described this story. In general, though, it acknowledged both cooperation and some tension with Dell.

"We love Dell. They indeed play a critical role with innovation and standards as the world's largest seller of PCs, and they certainly keep us on our toes every day," the company said in a statement.

More tension arrived in the area of processors, especially when Intel was faced with a move to advanced chips with 64-bit abilities. Instead of endowing its x86 chips, such as Pentium and Xeon, with 64-bit features, Intel aggressively pushed its Itanium line. Dell, though, urged Intel to boost x86--the direction rival chipmaker Advanced Micro Devices took.

"Next time to you talk to Pat (Gelsinger, head of Intel's server group and its former CTO), ask him where the demand for 64-bit memory extensions (to x86 chips) came from," Kettler said.

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76 comments (Page 1 of 4)
No, you're Apple's lapdog
by CentrOS April 10, 2006 4:44 AM PDT
Or you soon will be. Apple is so much smaller, and yet commands AND wields so much more power in the industry than Dell, it's a joke this article was ever written.
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oh please dell
by April 10, 2006 5:07 AM PDT
Oh please Dell, bestoy the unworthy with more of your wisdom. You people at Dell really believing this junk that you say?
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if they're so great...
by MattLPMP April 10, 2006 5:13 AM PDT
Why are they losing ground to HP in most divisions? Why haven't they offered AMD-powered gear? Dell does no more for the industry than any leading company would. They get to set some direction because of their size. I'm sure that HP and IBM can give examples of how they'd "established" something in the industry. Their blind loyalty to Intel continues to hurt the industry as a whole.
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If dell could only; today lets say, offer the only quad-sli AMD FX-60 Liddo
by Pop4 April 10, 2006 5:13 AM PDT
Then we too, and even us. Could be blue. Yellow; pale with a plastic shovel.
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Dell responsible for 802.11?!!!
by mike.gw April 10, 2006 6:02 AM PDT
Those were orange and blue Dell iBooks that Steve Jobs walked around with when he introduced the first commercial and consumer application of the 802.11 wireless spec at MacWorld in NY? That was Michael Dell in the blue jeans and black turtleneck? Dell was an earlier adopter in the PC world for 802.11, but Apple put Wi-Fi on the map with their Airport hub and cards. Apple didn't develop wi-fi, but it saw a good thing and put it on the market first.
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Nonsense! Dell follows Intel BLINDLY!
by fred dunn April 10, 2006 6:19 AM PDT
Dell, did you not sell socket 423 P4 systems with RAMBUS? Yes, and you had problems with them. Why? When the PIII was proven a better processor architecture. I'll tell you why becuase what Intel says Dell says. Did you follow Intel's Itanium roadmap, YES! Only when you didn't get any customers for the Itanic did you withdraw. While other's were going to DDR you stuck with PC133, why? Because Intel still wanted to prove that RAMBUS was a much better architecture. If you had any say about what Intel was delivering to you then what happened there? You followed Intel all the way through the P4 lineage even after they hit the thermal "brick wall" of 4GHz and had to back off to 3.8 GHz. Where was your CTO then? Intel promised that the P4 would go to 5GHz which was almost required for the P4's long pipeline. I won't comment on the MS side of the house because I actually thing that they do listen to you. But let me put it this way, Dell may as well be named Intdell because you totally depend on Intel to tell you what to do. You design your systems off of Intel reference boards and you are Intel's lapdog (although I can think of a better term but can't post it here). Fred Dunn
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Dell recommends Windows XP
by Blito April 10, 2006 6:35 AM PDT
Dell recommends Windows XP
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Page 2 of Dell playbok
by Dachi April 10, 2006 8:00 AM PDT
Every 3 months were hear in one form or another that Dell is not obligated to use Just Intel/Microsoft etc. etc. They paraphrase the same thing they have been saying over and over but not doing and it's still news. They say these things I think becasue they are trynig to convince Wintel, but these days the pro AMD statements made from Dell must be a running joke around the Intel water coolers. Boss: "You get those TPS reports?" Dolt: "They are on your desk right next to the press release that Dell began shipping AMD desktops"
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Time to sell the company and return the money to the stockholders.
by Byronic April 10, 2006 8:29 AM PDT
Do it now, and do everyone a favor.
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There are other Dell offerings?
by Titos 2 Cents April 10, 2006 8:30 AM PDT
I wasn't aware that Dell was offering a Linux-based, AMD-powered desktop these days. And those dual-core Athlon 64's are just flying off Dell's virtual shelves. As a large customer they were able to influence the Intel wireless standard and push them towards the 64 extensions. Good for them, it sounds like standard business practices to me, but it only seems to work one-way. Most successful businesses listen to their customer base and respond, Intel listened to Dell, but Dell isn't listening to the consumer. When they actually decide to broaden their horizons and offer something up outside of the Wintel playbook, then maybe they can claim to have a leadership role in technology. Until that time they are just a successful lapdog that occasionally nips at the master.
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