Microsoft: Vista service pack coming in '08

After months of silence, Microsoft finally coughed up details Tuesday about its plans for the first update to Windows Vista, saying the service pack will arrive in the first quarter of next year.

In the next few weeks, Microsoft will start private testing of a beta of Service Pack 1 for Vista as well as a third service pack for Windows XP. The company plans initially to release the beta only to 10,000 pre-selected testers, though it may expand that release later. A small group of testers are already working with a "beta preview" version.

As for what's in the Vista update, it's mostly a collection of existing fixes and tweaks aimed at improving stability and reliability of the operating system, which went on sale to consumers in January.

"It is not a delivery vehicle for lots of features," said Shanen Boettcher, a general manager in the Windows unit.

"It is not a delivery vehicle for lots of features."
--Shanen Boettcher, general manager, Microsoft Windows unit

There are a few minor enhancements, most notably the ability to encrypt multiple hard drive partitions using Vista's BitLocker feature.

"Lots of folks gave feedback that 'We have an OS partition and a data partition and we'd like to encrypt both,'" Boettcher said.

Also being added are support for an emerging removable storage file format known as exFAT as well as for EFI (extensible firmware interface), an alternative to the BIOS (basic input output system) that handles the initial start-up of a system.

Vista SP1 will be a large download: Roughly 1GB, based on current test versions. By way of comparison, Windows XP--the whole thing--shipped on a CD, which only holds about three quarters of a gigabyte. Installing the OS upgrade will require 7GB of free hard drive space, though much of that will be returned to the user once the megapatch is applied, Microsoft said.

The key question is what, if any, impact the contents of the update or its timing will have on the plans of large businesses to move to Vista. IDC analyst Al Gillen predicted that it won't have that big of an effect.

"It doesn't fundamentally change the landscape for Windows Vista adoption," Gillen said.

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Microsoft has set out ambitious goals for business adoption of Vista, saying it expected businesses to move to Vista in the first year at twice the rate they did with Windows XP.

Gillen said that businesses seem to be moving at generally the same pace as with previous releases.

As for the coming Windows XP update, Microsoft didn't give many details, but did say that it is planned to be the last significant update for the operating system, which debuted in October 2001.

"There's not a lot we have to say there," Boettcher said. "It's really an end-of-life (patch) roll-up for Windows XP."

Microsoft's largest prior discussion of the Vista service pack came in a June court filing, in which the company agreed to make changes to Vista's desktop search feature in response to complaints from Google. In the filing, Microsoft said the changes would come in SP1 and that a beta of the service pack would come this year.

On Tuesday, Mike Burk, a senior product manager at Microsoft, said that the desktop search changes would not be part of the beta, but rather would be added at a later date. On Wednesday, the company said the search changes will indeed come with SP1 beta when it enters testing in the next few weeks.

Aside from that, Microsoft steadfastly refused to comment on the service pack, except to say that there would be one. The company also maintained that service packs are not as important these days given all the updating of the operating system that Microsoft does online.

However, despite pleas from Microsoft that businesses need not wait for a service pack to adopt new releases, Boettcher acknowledged that the first service pack of major software releases remains a psychological milestone for some customers.

"It's not a perception that is going to change overnight," Boettcher said.

Microsoft has been increasingly delivering patches one at a time, via various online updating services, but not all customers want things a patch at a time. "Some folks like to see it all rolled up," Boettcher said. "You are going to see us continue to do that over time."

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It's been some time now
by sanenazok August 29, 2007 8:10 AM PDT
I've been using Vista for two months at work and about five months at home. Everything has worked fine, except I had to upgrade my Acrobat Pro (from version 5 to 8 hah). Also initially I would get incorrect "driver not installed" errors when connecting to a printer shared from an XP machine. It would print just fine but then afterwards Vista would prompt me to install the drivers. An update last month took care of this annoyance once and for all. Other than that it's been smooth 3-d sailing for me!
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Additional features?
by Neo Con August 29, 2007 9:18 AM PDT
I agree with the other posters that the Vista upgrade has been a breeze. I've had a few issues with the 64-bit edition, most notably with drivers in the first few months, but it's gradually cleared up as patches have come out to improve performance and 64-bit drivers have been released from the various hardware manufacturers. What I want to know is, where are all the features that Microsoft cut out of Vista prior to release? Most notably, where is the new file system? The one thing I really dislike about Vista is that it seems to be extremely slow on large disk I/O operations -- much slower than XP. I have a suspicion that this is due to their cutting of the new file system and the subsequent retrofit onto NTFS, and I'm chomping at the bit to get the new format! Is that going to be included in SP1 or some other future patch/release?
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Vista security is more work for the user
by educateme August 29, 2007 9:41 AM PDT
Vista is merely a new shower curtain over XP and in the process a new way to have to work, discovering what things are called, where they were moved, and of course accepting every change with a UAC alert. The bad thing about UAC is it isnt very good at announcing itself, often sitting on the taskbar as a glowing orange bar waiting for you to find it and Continue...usually after you sit there for a minute and wonder if the PC has stopped working. Then Oh!, thats whats goinbg on, it needs me to approve of the change of the time, or background screen wallpaper..how protective and valuable...NOT! If you call Vista Security an advance in technology youd be mistaken...its merely changed to the USER being the last line of defense for a PC. If Microsoft cant make the OS safer and less prone to attack, then it leaves the job up to you to decide to Continue...how noble of them. Sure is a lot of hassles for the one good Vista feature...Tabbed Browsing in IE. Once you figure out where the IE buttons and toolbar went to, you should almost feel like you are on XP again....and for that you paid $100-$300, a bargain.
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New kernel
by frankwick August 29, 2007 9:58 AM PDT
SP1 was to have a new Vista kernel which closely resembled the Server 2008 kernel. Is this still the case?
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My Experience: Vista?s Initial Introduction Should Have Been Delayed
by rule405 August 29, 2007 11:28 AM PDT
I have been running Vista for Business since April 2007. Since installation in my powerful new computer (Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E6700 at 2.67GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 4M Cache, Asus Striker Extreme motherboard, 2GB Corsair TWIN2X2048-5400C4PRO DDR2 675MHz Memory, and nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX 768MB DDR3 @575MHz), I have had several problems with it, including (1) after sleep idles of 2 hours or more, the computer refuses to ?wake up? and the only way of getting control is to hold the power button in for several seconds and do a cold start; (2) sometimes it would just crash into a blue screen of death; (3) it would not permit me to do Windows Updates; and (4) oftentimes the operating system would not ?see? my floppy drive or the card reader. I sent the computer back to the manufacturer, and the manufacturer, too, is now experiencing the same problem re the failure to awake from long sleeps; after a week of testing, the service department tells me that they have had this complaint before, it is a Vista problem and it seems that the only thing to do about it is wait for Microsoft to make a Vista fix. (One writer refers to his computer running the Vista OS as ?Chip Van Winkle.?) It is my opinion that Microsoft should have waited to get the bugs out of its new Vista platform before it was introduced earlier this year and that the multi-millions of dollars that Microsoft earns as a result of the premature introduction speak louder than those computer users who have the misfortune to own computers that malfunction due to the flawed Vista OS.
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Is that 2008 or 3008?
by technewsjunkie August 29, 2007 11:41 AM PDT
By that time I'll probably be using Vista.
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Only Microsoft...
by hounddoglgs August 29, 2007 12:19 PM PDT
can get away with putting out a crappy bloated OS and then take over a year to put out the first service pack.
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My first install of Vista only lasted a week.
by inachu August 29, 2007 12:27 PM PDT
I did not try to break it or do nefarious things to its inner workings. The whole tcp/ip stack and driver just up and dissappeared. Even a reinstall of the driver and the Vista OS prooved to be fruitless. Vista barked back that no hardware existed for network driver... Grrrr! I changed no hardware then proceeded to reisntall XP Pro and now everything works as it should.
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microsoft's entire product line up sucks.
by zackinma August 29, 2007 3:50 PM PDT
as a microsoft network administrator for many years i had high hopes for the new products: vista exchange 2007 server longhorn (2008) office 2007 lets start with exchange. i recently migrated our network from exchange 2003 to 2007. boy what a mistake that was. besides being the most difficult migration i have ever done, exchange 2007 is a DISASTER. STAY AWAY! the product is incomplete. half of what you need to do to administer the server can only be done from the command prompt now (power shell) where in past versions going back to exchange 5.5 i could do everything in the GUI. the power shell is nice, and makes scripting a lot easier, but damn it if i wanted to administer my server using the command line all the time i would run linux. GIVE ME THE OPTION!!! prior simple tasks like importing and exporting public certificates for OWA are much more difficult and time consuming. exchange no longer uses smtp servers, now it uses "cobnnectors" and setting up prior simple tasks like configuring the server to accept mail relay from another server is now very time consuming and down right frustrating. also exchange 2007 doesn't let you carry over any of your custom recipient policies you may have set up under 2003 to manage mailboxes. at least not with out another power shell script containing no less then a few thousand lines of code. NO THANKS STICK with EXCHANGE 2003, DO NOT UPGRADE. you will regreat it, trust me. now lets talk about the disaster they call vista. I installed it on my computer first. since i was going to have to support it, i should check it out first. never have i ever had so many problems. my copy and paste blows up and stops working after an hour or so after reboot. it takes 20 minutes to boot up, 5 minutes just to LOG OUT, never mind actually shut down. it takes massive amounts of space on the hard drive and runs severly slower then XP. i have since rolled it out to a few of our web developers. their work productivity DECREASED almost 40%. these are people who have been working with microsoft products all their careers. they develop web pages using visual studio and .net framework. they struggle to work in this operating system. I have since rolled them back to XP per their request. i could talk about how slow the system is, how much extra traffic it generates on my network, how often it crashes, how many times a day i have to reboot, but you get the idea. they screwed vista up so much i really am scared to even roll up to SP3 for XP. i heard they are adding some "vista features" i am scared, very scared. our vice president of IT came to me and asked about upgrading the entire company. i put together a spread sheet showing how i spent my support time. since we upgraded a few users in febuary i spent on average 60 % more time supporting these same users then before the upgrade. that continues to be the case more then 6 months after the upgrade. on average vista users require almost twice the support time per month then xp users. they are also nearly 40% less productive. lastly lets talk about office. oh my god what a freakin nightmare. you know how many users call me because they can't find an icon on that stupid ribbon. "it was there yesterday" why don't they let you go back to the old style text menues? don;t they realize this is a productivity suite... don;t they realize it is hurting and not helping productivity? also i would like to say that the new office doesn;t support some of microsoft's OWN PRODUCTS. let me save you the time of explaining the nightmare of getting outlook 2007 to work with project server 2003. good luck with that plug in. it never imports projects or updates calendars correctly. in closing i can say: stay away from exchange 2007. i would rather run exchange 5.5... that is saying alot. nothing short of an absolute incomplete disaster of a product. vista is good for lowering productivity and increasing support time, and congesting your network with un-needed traffic but thats about it. the new office looks pretty, but thats about it as well. all said and told, i think my company sill pass on this ENTIRE ROUND of microsoft releases. i hope they do better next time. i knew there had to be a reason OEM computer makers started to sell XP again...
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added vista problems
by zackinma August 29, 2007 3:55 PM PDT
oh i also forgot to mention how vista blows up when i try to copy a small file over the network, it just hangs on esitmating time. we are talking about files of 10k here, it would take less time to copy then to estimate how long the copy will take. we can also talk about how almost every application blows up in vista if you have your "my documents" folder mapped to folder on a network drive.
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