National ID cards on the way?

A recent vote in Congress endorsing standardized, electronically readable driver's licenses has raised fears about whether the proposal would usher in what amounts to a national ID card.

In a vote that largely divided along party lines, the U.S. House of Representatives approved a Republican-backed measure that would compel states to design their driver's licenses by 2008 to comply with federal antiterrorist standards. Federal employees would reject licenses or identity cards that don't comply, which could curb Americans' access to everything from airplanes to national parks and some courthouses.

The congressional maneuvering takes place as governments are growing more interested in implanting technology in ID cards to make them smarter and more secure. The U.S. State Department soon will begin issuing passports with radio frequency identification, or RFID, chips embedded in them, and Virginia may become the first state to glue RFID tags into all its driver's licenses.

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A recent vote in Congress endorsing standardized, electronically readable driver's licenses has raised fears about whether the proposal would usher in what amounts to a national ID card.

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Proponents of the Real ID Act say it's needed to frustrate both terrorists and illegal immigrants. Critics say it imposes more requirements for identity documents on states, and gives the Department of Homeland Security carte blanche to do nearly anything else "to protect the national security interests of the United States."

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"Supporters claim it is not a national ID because it is voluntary," Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, one of the eight Republicans to object to the measure, said during the floor debate this week. "However, any state that opts out will automatically make nonpersons out of its citizens. They will not be able to fly or to take a train."

Paul warned that the legislation, called the Real ID Act, gives unfettered authority to the Department of Homeland Security to design state ID cards and driver's licenses. Among the possibilities: biometric information such as retinal scans, fingerprints, DNA data and RFID tracking technology.

Proponents of the Real ID Act say it adheres to the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission and is needed to frustrate both terrorists and illegal immigrants. Only a portion of the legislation regulates ID cards; the rest deals with immigration law and asylum requests. "American citizens have the right to know who is in their country, that people are who they say they are, and that the name on the driver's license is the real holder's name, not some alias," F. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wisc., said last week.

"If these commonsense reforms had been in place in 2001, they would have hindered the efforts of the 9/11 terrorists, and they will go a long

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Real "National" ID
by ALMRev February 14, 2005 6:37 AM PST
Revelation 13:16-17 It compelled everyone -- small and great alike, rich and poor, slave and citizen -- to be branded on the right hand or on the forehead, and made it illegal for anyone to buy or sell anything unless he had been branded with the name of the beast or with the number of its name. They say it is voluntary BUT if youi don't obtain one you will not be permitted to travel on planes or trains. They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790), Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
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Dangerous tactics.
by February 14, 2005 6:38 AM PST
This bill is a double-edged sword and it worries me. On one hand it's a great way to keep track of people. However, therein is it's greatest problem: Everyone able to be targeted. Who knows what kinds of information someone who can hack the system, or even just get ahold of your ID, can get. Identity theft could quite possible rise with such cards. However, I do see the good in this bill. I personally would never approve it though.
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If this happens...
by jaximflash February 14, 2005 6:45 AM PST
If this bill gets passed, I'm storing my driver's license in a metal container so no one can scan the card without me knowing, AND I won't let anyone scan the card when I do take it out to show someone no matter what. I think having a uniform standard and making sure only US citizens can obtain a license is okay, but when they talk about biometrics and RFID implants, then the government is going well beyond their boundaries and overreacting.
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Nothing Right About It
by Thomas, David February 14, 2005 7:31 AM PST
For a small measure of comfort. Over something that will probably be really easy to hack, this bill is proposing to strip the citizens of their rights and freedoms. The reality of this proposal is scary at best. Foolish in the least. If the FBI, and IRS (among other agencies) can spend hundreds of millions of dollars on systems that do not work (and never delivered), the only thing this bill does is create a GIGANTIC opportunity of abuse at every level. Those with the miniscule brainpower to dream this up should be publicly flogged.
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RFID
by emiliosic February 14, 2005 8:14 AM PST
I lived abroad for many years, and I don't see the issue of a national ID as problematic. I think it does make sense. Biometric data is not that bad. Afrer all, a fingerprint is a biometric data. Our picture is biometric data. Our signature is also biometric data (It determines some of the brain's locomotive abilities). I do have a problem with RFID. RFID is a great technology. I would like to avoid lanes at the local market or hardware store. They do know what I buy anyways by linking my discount card or even my credit card to what I buy anyways. I don't expect that knowing how many eggs I buy or that I buy ham, cheese and bread at the same time. But I do have a problem with an RFID chip in my driver's license, containing biometric data. The silver lining is that for bar-coded or magnetic information, I have to give my approval for somebody to look at it (i.e., handing the card). With RFID, I might walk through a reader without even knowing it. Next time, a camera will take a picture of my eyes (in a not too far future) and link that data. It's cliché but it so reminds me of the 'Minority Report' movie. RFID/Iris scans. What's next? Preemptive wars? (oops. that also happened). We might as well put or medical records on that card and make it useful.
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Business Opportunity
by February 14, 2005 8:41 AM PST
Radar guns spawned radar detectors. RFID cards will spawn RFID Card Protectors. The only question is what is the smallest lightest protector that fits in a wallet and won't stain fabric. This is America. We make money on inconvenience and fear, but if you don't think the innovators won't step up to the opportunity to protect rights while making a buck, think again.
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More war on the poor...
by Razzl February 14, 2005 8:58 AM PST
The police record in my local newspaper is filled every week with an endless litany of motor vehicle problems faced by the poor--driving uninsured, driving under suspension, drunk driving, etc. We have a large body of our citizenry who are perpetually in trouble with the law because they cannot afford the buy-in which states require into the insurance scheme and another body of citizenry who lose their licenses over addiction problems. Using the driver's license as a universal identifier will guarantee that a large number of (usually lower-income) citizens will be routinely deprived of their rights. Congress should be working on how to fix the unfair insurance requirements in state motor vehicle licensing rather than monkeying around with more of W's bizarre Orwellian national security proposals.
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Yes...
by February 14, 2005 10:53 AM PST
Yes these types of things are always protect either consumers or our citizens. Then why is it that it is always these two groups that get scr*wed? The Patriot Act was to protect us and all it did was give more power to power crazed administration. It hasn't done a single thing to help us or protect us. I don't think it has even managed to help catch a real terrorist. The DMCA was supposed to help protect consumers and make things fair for both business and consumers. Like proventing the sale of poor quality after market ink and toners for our printers especially of the ones that had anti-refill chips in them. But, all it did was cost us some free speech rights, cost us more money and allowed anyone that doesn't like what someone else says about their products to file a law suite against them for breaking in their protected copyrighted code. It is all bunch of cr*p and this ID bull is just another example. If they want to pass something useful how about a law that requires presidental canidates to take an IQ test so we can weed out the morons like George W Bush and one to ensure that right wing extremist nut jobs and religous freaks don't get in to office like George W. Bush. Robert
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Error in article
by Hernys February 14, 2005 12:08 PM PST
There is an error in the article where it says that citizens of countries in Latin America and Europe have to carry their IDs all the time or they are subject to punishment. For most of latin america an europe at least that's not true. You are only required to carry ID cards to prove you are over 18 to buy liquor or cigarrettes or to enter to a night club, for example, but not to walk on the streets or to go to public places (it is used for basically the same americans use a driver's license, which I always found absurd). Of course, if you are stopped by the police for some valid reason (the definition of valid reason varies from country to country, including the US, but that has nothing to do with ID cards) you might be held until you can prove your identity. Most of the world uses ID cards, and I know of not a single case where they have been used to track or spy on people in a way that couldn't be done without ID cards. Credit cards are much more dangerous regarding tracking people.
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Are You Now or Have You Ever Been a Member of the Lead-Foot Party.
by Catgic February 14, 2005 1:49 PM PST
Bless me Uncle, I REAL ID ?sinned.? I?ve had three moving violations since age 16. Public confession time citizens, on the e-pillories of individual States per Federally set and controlled standards of ?data sin.? Declan, now all those wheelies you performed on your motor monster down Sorority Row at CMU will be digitized and made part of the Federal record. In the techno-vernacular, it will be distributed citizen data collection with centralized processing, analysis and control. The states will loose more of their already dwindling ?states rights,? and become simple data collection nodes in data-input bondage to Uncle Sammy Buck$ Big Brother. If the States no play, Uncle Sammy no pay. With REAL ID, when you get pulled over by Boss Hogg in any of the 50 States or U.S. territories of our Grand Old Republic, Officer Hogg will know all of your ?data sins? at light-speed. Clearly, a person?s motor vehicle violation record is a prima facie indicator of who is and isn?t a person-of-interest or a soon-to-emerge deep-cover terrorist. The Real ID Act ?doesn?t even mention the word ?privacy,?? because the Act might just as well be called the Citizen Privacy & Liberty Eradication Act. SAT Question for REAL ID lovers: Privacy is to REAL ID as Liberty is to ___________. I?ll ask your State of Domicile to embed your SAT ?Privacy? Score into your REAL ID driver?s license RFID chip.
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