Oracle tried to buy open-source MySQL

SAN FRANCISCO--Oracle tried to acquire open-source database maker MySQL, an indication of the profound changes the software giant is willing to make as it adapts to the increasingly significant collaborative programming philosophy.

MySQL Chief Executive Marten Mickos confirmed the acquisition attempt in an interview at the Open Source Business Conference here but wouldn't provide details such as when the approach was made or how much money Oracle offered.

He did, however, say why he turned down Oracle's offer: the desire to keep his company's independence. "We will be part of a larger company, but it will be called MySQL," Mickos said.

Oracle didn't immediately comment on the acquisition offer.

Though it is increasingly diversified, Oracle's primary business is selling its own proprietary database software. MySQL, in contrast, is a leader among several companies trying to commercialize rival open-source products.

The acquisition would have been a smart move for Oracle, said Redmonk analyst Stephen O'Grady.

"It all comes back to the question of cannibalizing an existing business," O'Grady said. "If you determine that to some extent it's inevitable, wouldn't you prefer that you do it, instead of your competitors?"

O'Grady said Oracle could benefit from MySQL in the way that IBM has from its acquisition of Gluecode, a company that commercializes the open-source Geronimo Java application server software and competed with IBM's own proprietary WebSphere product. IBM now offers Gluecode's software as a free product called WebSphere community edition.

"They could position it as a lower-end alternative, much as IBM has done with WebSphere CE, recognizing that their larger accounts aren't likely to switch from the enterprise-class database anyhow," O'Grady said. At the same time, buying MySQL could "open up a very sizable new market for themselves."

The database market is in the midst of major changes. IBM now offers a lower-end version of its DB2 product for free, following similar moves by Microsoft and Oracle. At the same time, companies such as Ingres and EnterpriseDB are trying to build high-end open-source database packages.

MySQL, based in Sweden and Cupertino, Calif., announced in January that it's been profitable for two quarters. But it's not turning down outside money. MySQL announced Monday it raised $18.5 million in a third round of funding from Institutional Venture Partners, Intel Capital, Red Hat, SAP Ventures and Sumitomo's Presidio STX investment subsidiary.

Oracle's financial moves, however, are orders of magnitude grander. Its major buying spree resulted in the acquisitions of Siebel Systems for $5.8 billion and PeopleSoft for $10.3 billion.

Oracle already has bought two small open-source database companies--Sleepycat on Tuesday and InnoDB in 2005. But its open-source ambitions clearly are larger; for example, BusinessWeek reported that Oracle is expected to acquire open-source application server maker JBoss.

Mickos and other executives eagerly note that the MySQL database is gradually maturing with higher-end features, but they deny they've got Oracle in their crosshairs. Oracle is often used in back-end databases that power complex, massive software such as enterprise resource planning packages (ERP) from SAP or PeopleSoft.

"We are not used in all the ERP stuff. We are adding those features, but we are not going to be running PeopleSoft applications any time," Mickos said. Instead, MySQL is aiming for next-generation applications at companies such as Workday, a software-as-a-service start-up being launched by PeopleSoft co0founder Dave Duffield.

In reality, the MySQL and Oracle do compete. "They're obviously entrenched in different areas of the market--Oracle at the high end, MySQL in the higher-volume, lower-end space," O'Grady said. "But is there overlap in the middle? Sure."

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by SqlserverCode February 15, 2006 4:17 PM PST
Oracle is going to buy everyone, Larry is out of control http://www.otherthingsnow.blogspot.com/
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next up .....
by SqlserverCode February 15, 2006 4:17 PM PST
Oracle is going to buy everyone, Larry is out of control http://www.otherthingsnow.blogspot.com/
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Not for sale
by February 15, 2006 4:50 PM PST
My SQL is not for sale. Glad they didn't sell out
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Not for sale
by February 15, 2006 4:50 PM PST
My SQL is not for sale. Glad they didn't sell out
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Everything has a price
by TarrySingh February 16, 2006 4:36 AM PST
And it's amatter of time before you give in. No harm in playing hard to get though. anyways question is why Oracle should continue to chase MySQL. WHY? well answer is clear. SAP is working too close with MySQL. Reason enough. but seriously the bid to move in aggressively into the SMB market. MySQL has got to be the buy Oracle is waiting for. With the plans to buy Jboss, it already will have a good light weight App server and with a good light db server which will/should be tipped "Oracle lite" (eventually). So a little late in the game (IMO they should have done this long ago!)but still not worth giving up!! Cheers Tarry http://tarrysingh.blogspot.com
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Everything has a price
by TarrySingh February 16, 2006 4:36 AM PST
And it's amatter of time before you give in. No harm in playing hard to get though. anyways question is why Oracle should continue to chase MySQL. WHY? well answer is clear. SAP is working too close with MySQL. Reason enough. but seriously the bid to move in aggressively into the SMB market. MySQL has got to be the buy Oracle is waiting for. With the plans to buy Jboss, it already will have a good light weight App server and with a good light db server which will/should be tipped "Oracle lite" (eventually). So a little late in the game (IMO they should have done this long ago!)but still not worth giving up!! Cheers Tarry http://tarrysingh.blogspot.com
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ORACLE would be crazy
by Blito February 16, 2006 5:31 AM PST
...to buy MySQL as it just isn't their field. Sure, maybe in the 'locked in' 90s where everything had a price they could buy it, strip it, and repackage it in a redundant bloat-ware scheme leading to vaporware virus ridden nightmares, but not now as it would be too costly to fool customers the second time around. What's interesting I think is how MySQL has seemed to create a newer industry for the mid-database market here so they can have staying power. message boards etc. In the 90s I think we had too much bloated software I think for databasing. Was difficult to do mid market stuff then. It was just expensive.
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ORACLE would be crazy
by Blito February 16, 2006 5:31 AM PST
...to buy MySQL as it just isn't their field. Sure, maybe in the 'locked in' 90s where everything had a price they could buy it, strip it, and repackage it in a redundant bloat-ware scheme leading to vaporware virus ridden nightmares, but not now as it would be too costly to fool customers the second time around. What's interesting I think is how MySQL has seemed to create a newer industry for the mid-database market here so they can have staying power. message boards etc. In the 90s I think we had too much bloated software I think for databasing. Was difficult to do mid market stuff then. It was just expensive.
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ARE YOU FRICK'N CRAZY
by OneWithTech February 16, 2006 6:29 AM PST
If MySQL sells out to Oracle they would have single handedly F'ed up the internet and data-basing as a whole. Oracle is a for profit company that will destroy MySQL and what it's used and stands for. Lets not forget what PHP/MySQL stands for: OPEN SOURCE, FREE, OPEN, FREE. Who the F'K does Oracle think they are. Are they trying to create a Monopoly in the Database world. This acquisition would confirm a TRUE Monopoly. I would strongly disagree and let it be known if you use PHP or MySQL in anyway. You know, like I use it for www.TechViewsToday.US as well as a host of other bulletin board services that I don't get paid for and in turn saves my clients thousands and thousands of dollars years. Small business clients will be affected by this acquisition the most. If you run a web service or your company uses the net in a database way this WILL AFFECT YOU. Do not believe the smoke that will be blown by Oracle. There only out for the money and they will KILL MySQL. If you don't believe me as your Webmaster or Web Developer how this could affect you web presence as a whole. "This acquisition CAN'T happen!"
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ARE YOU FRICK'N CRAZY
by OneWithTech February 16, 2006 6:29 AM PST
If MySQL sells out to Oracle they would have single handedly F'ed up the internet and data-basing as a whole. Oracle is a for profit company that will destroy MySQL and what it's used and stands for. Lets not forget what PHP/MySQL stands for: OPEN SOURCE, FREE, OPEN, FREE. Who the F'K does Oracle think they are. Are they trying to create a Monopoly in the Database world. This acquisition would confirm a TRUE Monopoly. I would strongly disagree and let it be known if you use PHP or MySQL in anyway. You know, like I use it for www.TechViewsToday.US as well as a host of other bulletin board services that I don't get paid for and in turn saves my clients thousands and thousands of dollars years. Small business clients will be affected by this acquisition the most. If you run a web service or your company uses the net in a database way this WILL AFFECT YOU. Do not believe the smoke that will be blown by Oracle. There only out for the money and they will KILL MySQL. If you don't believe me as your Webmaster or Web Developer how this could affect you web presence as a whole. "This acquisition CAN'T happen!"
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