Police Blotter: Imprisoned sex offenders demand PCs

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What: Sex offenders held in Minnesota facility say it was illegal for guards to confiscate personal computers used in their rooms.

When: Court of Appeals of Minnesota rules on May 8.

Outcome: Sex offenders have no right to possess PCs.

What happened, according to court documents:
The sleepy town of Moose Lake is home to one of Minnesota's sex offender programs, where "people who are committed by courts as a sexual psychopathic personality or a sexual dangerous person" are civilly committed. The unit goes by the generic name of "Therapeutic Concepts Unit."

Last April, four patients escaped from a second TCU location, which raised alarms in nearby communities. During their escape, the sex offenders removed metal bars and broke security glass in windows.

One of the men was a convicted rapist, who was identified and captured after appearing on America's Most Wanted a few weeks later. The other three were caught within hours of their escape.

That escape prompted Minnesota to immediately confiscate TCU patients' computers for security inspections. Rodger Robb, a TCU patient, believed that his computer would not be returned.

He sued, claiming a violation of his due process rights, and was joined by fellow patient Larry Schultz. Other reasons the administration gave for the confiscations include: The rooms are small and electrical outlets are limited.

"The point about this computer thing that is so angering to so many people is that they painted with this real broad brush," Robb said, according to CityPages.com. "I have never been accused of misusing my computer for anything. I have never misused my computer for anything."

The confiscation is part of a broader, planned crackdown on personal computers owned by TCU patients, with administrators arguing that the machines are used to store sexual images and ones in common areas should be used instead. That crackdown was put on hold until Robb's lawsuit was decided, though. (A previous Police Blotter article described how one TCU patient claimed to have a First Amendment right to have Playboy images on his PC.)

Robb and Schultz lost before a trial judge, who rejected their request for an injunction and ruled that the duo had "fallen far short" of demonstrating that they would suffer a violation of their rights.

So did a state appeals court, which said last week that administrators enjoy great latitude "to accommodate a growing patient population and provide a safe and secure facility for patients and staff."

Excerpts from the appeals court's opinion:
Appellants argue that the state infringed upon their due process rights under U.S. Const. amend. V and Minn. Const. art. I, Sec. 7 because they were deprived of property interests. Although the protocol does not allow personal computers in the patients' rooms, they have access to common-use computers and may transfer appropriate data from their personal computer hard drives to disks. Appellants speculate that the state intends to destroy Robb's computer and appellants' other property. Because he has copious amounts of saved material on his computer, Robb speculates that it would be impossible to put it onto disks.

Appellants cite no evidence to support these contentions. And it is important for the state to have the ability to adjust policies to further MSOP's safety goals. Gary Grimm, MSOP program director, specifically denies appellants' contentions in his affidavit, stating "if the patient does not send out his computer, (MSOP) will place it in storage. (MSOP) will not destroy or otherwise dispose of patients' computers." (Editor's note: MSOP stands for the Minnesota Sex Offender Program.)

The relationship between the parties is that appellants are committed in the TCU at MSOP, and respondents operate the treatment facility. The district court found that the statutory requirements allow the state "wide latitude" to develop programs and policies for the administration of the program, including disallowing contraband contained on computers. This is consistent with the articulated policy to maintain a "secure and orderly environment that is safe for persons in treatment and staff and supportive of the treatment program."

As the district court found, it would be a heavy administrative burden to require that the district court review each item of personal property to determine whether it complies with protocol. Absent a clear violation of the patients' rights, the state must exercise its professional judgment to accommodate a growing patient population and provide a safe and secure facility for patients and staff. On the current record, it was not an abuse of discretion for the district court, after considering each of the governing factors, to deny appellants' motion to temporarily enjoin the state from holding or confiscating appellants' personal property.

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39 comments (Page 1 of 2)
Prisoners demand PCs
by tom.winans May 16, 2007 6:38 AM PDT
It is astounding that we confuse rights with privileges. Prisoners have no rights except those basic rights afforded any human: adequate food and shelter, and basic healthcare. Our system of judgment attempts to treat some prisoners better than others as a function of the severity of crimes committed, but such treatment falls into a "privilege" category and is discretionary. PCs are certainly discretionary. And they are the source of all kinds of communication and data that are harmful to the recovery of sexual predators if, indeed, it is possible to recover from such a malady. This is true whether a person is imprisoned or not. When last I checked, the basic rights described in the Constitution and Bill of Rights do not define rights directly supporting the continued development of prurient interests. Nor should they be hijacked to do so. Having a computer in a prison seems like an oxymoron to me ... and complaints that PCs have been taken away illustrate our social confusion about rights versus discretionary privileges.
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Gotta protect the children........
by fhharris May 16, 2007 6:52 AM PDT
Hmmm I read this one differently.... These are not incarcerated individuals. These are civil commitments after incarceration. It is our countries way of a life sentence for crimes that cannot command a life sentence. The issue of prurient pics is bs.... It is a matter of tightening the noose a little tighter.
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You have the right to...
by wbenton May 16, 2007 6:55 AM PDT
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You are innocent until proven guilty, but once proven guilty and sentenced a prison term, your rights are to complete your sentenced time. Anybody can demand anything... getting it however is another thing. Especially for sex offenders. They've deprived at least one child from living a normal life. That child will have to live with the awful memories those offenders inflicted upon them for the rest of their lives. Prison is not a happy go-easy life of leasure! For sex offenders it should not be pleasurable. Giving in to such demands will make their time a lot easier. But their victims don't get off as lightly. So if they want a PC, go out and find an old 8086 or 80286 CPU with 1-4MB Ram in it. Remove the power supply and set it in their cell! (* GRIN *) They now have a PC as they demanded! (* CHUCKLE *) FWIW
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Sex offenders do...
by Heebee Jeebies May 16, 2007 8:38 AM PDT
have a right to a computer. With much of the world being computer operated they have a right to develop, hone and improve life and work skills that will help them get jobs when they get out of the slammer. However, because of what they did and what they are in the slammer for they have no right to privacy on those computers and like themselves and their cells should have their computers searched and checked weekly or monthly by authorities. They should have no say in what software or settings are used and if they are found to have been visiting sites and looking at materials that are inappropriate because of their crime then a extra year should be added to their sentence for each violation. Robert
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These are prisoners!
by bdering May 16, 2007 9:39 AM PDT
I believe we miss the point. These ARE prisoners. They are incarcerated for crimes they have committed. Incarceration should NOT include the 'comforts' of "home". Access to computers does not mean that prisoners need to have them in their cells. I am against cruel and inhumane treatment however, if serving prison time becomes more comfortable than the lives of many in the "inner-city slums" (for example) then it would appear that going to prison is a step up. Prison and/or incarceration should be a deterrent against committing a crime in the first place. The more comfortable and the more "Rights" that are given to these convicted criminals, the less the prison system is a deterrent in of itself. The more you "soften" the prison stay, the less it becomes a punishment and the more it becomes an acceptable way of life. As soon as a criminal violates someone else's rights, they forfeit their own. Not only their right to travel freely, but their rights beyond the "Necessities of life"...Food, housing, clothing. Perhaps that is why crime rates grow each year...lack of punishment as a deterrent.
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Better lives in prison..
by washedaway May 16, 2007 9:45 AM PDT
For a sociology class in high school, we did a walk-through of a prison and I have to say that the "prisoners" had access to better equipment, food, and facilities than many of the people in my average middle class town. One of the men who spoke to us told a story of a man who was a repeat offender because his life was BETTER inside than it was out. It seems to me there is a big problem here if you want to go back to prison because you get to play with better toys, especially on my tax dollar.
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Sex
by freenclear1 May 16, 2007 9:53 AM PDT
Their rights and all that other crap that goes with it. Send them to Afghanistan and let them Sex offend over there and make sure they ask about their rights and their PC. I hope the system and officers aren't going to bite into this right's stuff, where was the Innocent Victim's Rights while they were abused? ... Udo freenclear1@msn.com
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wah wah wah
by Dalkorian May 16, 2007 9:54 AM PDT
I don't think I misread this part: "The confiscation is part of a broader, planned crackdown on personal computers owned by TCU patients, with administrators arguing that the machines are used to store sexual images and ones in common areas should be used instead." They *DO* have access to computers. They have been denied a private computer in their cells. I don't see a problem here at all, except for the fact that they were allowed private computers to begin with. These are convicted sex offenders after all (rapists, child molesters and the like), as noted by others the only rights they now have are the rights to basic living needs. I don't see how a private computer fits into that. If they want to explore a tech field (programming, for instance), they can do so on the provided "common area" machines. If that's a problem for them - tough. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
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Why are the jail part of the Corrections Department?
by jimoase May 16, 2007 10:01 AM PDT
I think we can take our eye off the target as was demonstrated in the Stanford experiment with prisoners and guards. How do we get more good behavior? I think is an important question to be answered. With a such a high return rate its easy to say what is being done in the Corrections Department needs to be examined. Finding a solution is more difficult. We can train wild animals with rewards, can we train humans as well? If hope is a key to success how is returning a person to society with the same skill set or less compared to current society needs a way for society to expect a more successful person has returned? How do we train people to use computer oriented skills without the use of a computer? Tough situation. Is a computer access a right? Depends on your view point, in my opinion. If we took people out of society for society behavior correction then we need to teach better behavior appropriated for how we expect them to act when returned to society. If not do something else and expect something else. Jim
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Think of the sex offenders
by gerhard_schroeder May 16, 2007 10:53 AM PDT
I love the liberal reactions here... that somehow sex offenders have a "right" to entertainment. Sorry, prison is a punishment. You rape a child, you lose rights. Liberalism is a mental disorder.
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